Jay's Move - Build Thread - 350 gallon system

Daniel@R2R · Aug 25, 2023

I'm here for the pictures!

I love your current system photos, and I'm sure the new tank will be awesome as well!

kyle78312 · Aug 25, 2023

JayinToronto said:
Here are some pics from over the years.

Beautiful, everything so vibrant and healthy looking

JayinToronto · Aug 25, 2023

Lebowski_ said:
Excuse me sir, are you selling any frags or nems? Worth the drive!

Exciting project.

Absolutely. Need to unload some for sure. Down sizing!
PM me and we'll figure something out.

JayinToronto · Aug 25, 2023

brandon429 said:
We have a sixty page tank transfer thread, some are very high dollar relocation jobs

No losses or fails

#1 rule from all pages: transfer 0% unrinsed old sand. It has only danger, nothing of benefit. Your live rock re seeds the new sand with life. You can kill your fish with one handful of old sand, I have a thread from 2020 that did that. Leave that one part out and all will be fine

also from the thread: when the new tank is set up, dont run todays full power lights on it, ramp up from a -40% cut over three weeks for a guaranteed bleach prevention. Pre rinse any sand you buy so that it’s cloudless 100%

see these jobs:

Official Sand Rinse and Tank Transfer thread

If you are reading this thread to cure a tank invasion from a link I sent you, we do not need to identify your type of invasion here we do not need you to test anything at anytime regarding nitrate, phosphate etc Above all, we do not need to see a microscope slide picture of your invasion at...

www.reef2reef.com

your sandbed bacteria don’t matter, only the live rock bacteria are required to make a safe transfer. Relocating 0-3 pods in the one handful of old sand isn’t worth it.

the light re ramping and the totally clean sand xfer are your two main change points for total safety. There is no need for bottle bac nor testing for ammonia (because a misread causes us to dump in chemicals in reaction, we never do that above)

I recently had to fix a leak in my current system. Had to clean out the entire system into kiddy pools. Put all the sand in garbage pail where it sat for 4 days. Mixed half of it back in the system when I returned everything back. Didn't have any problems. Did I get lucky?

brandon429 · Aug 25, 2023

Lucky for sure plus you have exceptional dilution many tanks don't have. There's no sixty page thread of 500 different tanks skipping rinses for nine years without crashes. The majority of reefs can do that, the minority can't.

Since I promised to harm nobody's reef in the tank transfer thread I can't accept any risk with other people's money, we pre rinse to collect the wins.

there isn't any risk in a cloudless transfer, and on page one of the work thread there's five crashes and twenty opaquing events from not rinsing (a collection of the less than likely but nonetheless devastating outcome) it comes down to merely a % risk choice for a system worth over twenty thousand dollars. One is the known safe way one is the risky way with readable threads showing the owners stating they wish they didn't do that.

I don't want to link the direct example of one handful of sand killing 100% of a large tanks fish after a transfer because he's my friend on the site, a currently active poster, and doesn't want to be pointed out which is understandable. Trust me, not worth it.

JayinToronto · Aug 25, 2023

brandon429 said:
Lucky for sure plus you have exceptional dilution many tanks don't have. There's no sixty page thread of 500 different tanks skipping rinses for nine years without crashes. The majority of reefs can do that, the minority can't.

Since I promised to harm nobody's reef in the tank transfer thread I can't accept any risk with other people's money, we pre rinse to collect the wins.

there isn't any risk in a cloudless transfer, and on page one of the work thread there's five crashes and twenty opaquing events from not rinsing (a collection of the less than likely but nonetheless devastating outcome) it comes down to merely a % risk choice for a system worth over twenty thousand dollars. One is the known safe way one is the risky way with readable threads showing the owners stating they wish they didn't do that.

I don't want to link the direct example of one handful of sand killing 100% of a large tanks fish after a transfer because he's my friend on the site, a currently active poster, and doesn't want to be pointed out which is understandable. Trust me, not worth it.

Thank you for the input!

JayinToronto · Aug 25, 2023

I think I'm going to go with the PanWorld 250 external to run my system. Just couldn't convince myself the Abyzz was worth the $$.

Is there a chart anywhere where I can calculate how much flow there will likely be at 25' of head pressure?

bshonesy · Aug 27, 2023

So I’m just wondering, what’s the reason that DC pumps are not all that common for basement sumps? Is it just a lack of power for the head pressure?

JayinToronto · Aug 27, 2023

bshonesy said:
So I’m just wondering, what’s the reason that DC pumps are not all that common for basement sumps? Is it just a lack of power for the head pressure?

For me the main difference was price. For 1 Abyzz I can get 8 external AC pumps.

bshonesy · Aug 27, 2023

JayinToronto said:
For me the main difference was price. For 1 Abyzz I can get 8 external AC pumps.

Yeah I agree with that, these things just move water, there’s no justification for the cost of those Abyzz.

JayinToronto · Aug 28, 2023

Does anyone have a suggestion for a "tray" or skirt around my DT? I would like something that could handle a slow leak. I was thinking a stainless steel tray for the stand to sit in, or a skirt of some sort around the glass with a 1" hole which will be plumped down to the drain the the basement.

Gumbies R Us · Aug 29, 2023

Following!

JayinToronto · Sep 12, 2023

Update:
Decided to build a drip tray out of the 3/4" plywood that will sit on stop of my steel frame. Will put a layer of fiberglass on it to water seal it and add a 1"hole that will run tubing directly to the drain in the basement. The tray will stick out 2" from the edge of the aquarium and has a 2" lip. I also made one for the sump aquarium,