Jelly on duncan

[Greenjim]

I noticed something on my duncan yesterday, but i though he was just spitting out some algae. It is still here today and its getting worse. Is this the jelly disease people talk about?

 

[JGT]

Yep, unfortunately it appears to be BJD.

 

[Greenjim]

Yep, unfortunately it appears to be BJD.

One of those dip will work?

 

[JGT]

Most likely not. The only thing that seems to be somewhat successful is a Cipro/Chemiclean/Iodine bath.

 

[JGT]

Pulled this recipe from another thread that @MERKEY posted.


In 4g mix dry first for 10 min with airstone, heater and power head.

500mg cipro
10 scoops chemiclean either one

After dissolved add

5 full droppers of iodine
5ml restore
5ml amino acid
5ml witch hazel

For torches the suggested time is 6 hours on initial bath.

I turn the power head off for most of the treatment after the meds ar mixed.

 

[JGT]

Another option since it’s a Duncan is to remove that head provided no other heads show signs of BJD.

 

[JGT]

Third option is peroxide dip. I’ve had some success doing this with a torch I had but it can be hit or miss.

 

[Greenjim]

Peroxyde i have at home, other options will take too much shipping time. I was thinking of throwing the duncan to protect my torch and frogspawn.

How much time should i dip in peroxyde where i can be sure the jelly is dealt with, even if the duncan does like it that much?

 

[JGT]

Peroxyde i have at home, other options will take too much shipping time. I was thinking of throwing the duncan to protect my torch and frogspawn.

How much time should i dip in peroxyde where i can be sure the jelly is dealt with, even if the duncan does like it that much?

First off you’ll want to carefully remove it from the tank so you don’t spread the BJD. Turn off all flow before you do.
I would then apply the peroxide via a pipette just to the affected head out of water. Give it time to where it starts to bubble, then submerse in a container of tank water and gently continue to blow off the BJD while the head is submerged. May need to do this a couple of times, each time using fresh tank water. Once it looks like the head is cleaned of BJD and most likely any flesh, you can return to tank.

 

[JGT]

Given it’s a Duncan, if the head is fairly isolated, I’d probably just get bone cutters and cut it off. The peroxide may work at killing the BJD but in all probability, the tissue as well since it’s already infected. GL!

 

[MERKEY]

All great advice @JGT !!!

If you choose not to remove the duncan ...Just to add a little advice on removing the BJD from the head in the tank before taking the frag out.

As jgt said flow off

I use a small tube to siphon water out and then suck the affected area with the tube.

This usually sucks all the BJD in the area out before you remove the whole plug.

Good luck and please keep us updated.

 

[Greenjim]

Ok so, i took it out, peroxyde direclty on and leave there 5min, in dip jar and pipette all the weird stuff, repeat. Now it looks clean.

I decided to frag it, this is what is left. I see black dots on the tip of the tentacles. Is that a bad sign?

Thanks alot for being here

 

[Lavey29]

Also keep in mind that BJD is caused by corals under duress from unbalanced parameters so something is way off in your tank most likely and will affect other LPS. Unless you just got that duncan very recently and added it to your tank.

 

[JGT]

Ok so, i took it out, peroxyde direclty on and leave there 5min, in dip jar and pipette all the weird stuff, repeat. Now it looks clean.

I decided to frag it, this is what is left. I see black dots on the tip of the tentacles. Is that a bad sign?

Thanks alot for being here

It looks good. Wouldn’t worry about the black dots. Keep an eye on it in case any of the other heads had it or got exposed to BJD. Same for your other corals. Esp torches/hammers/froggies.

 

[JGT]

Also keep in mind that BJD is caused by corals under duress from unbalanced parameters so something is way off in your tank most likely and will affect other LPS. Unless you just got that duncan very recently and added it to your tank.

Don’t necessarily agree with this. Over the years, when I’ve had this happen, the majority of time it has been due to physical injury. And then BJD followed. My params were fine and no other corals got infected. I find esp. with Euphyllia if the tissue gets damaged they become very vulnerable to BJD.

 

[Lavey29]

Don’t necessarily agree with this. Over the years, when I’ve had this happen, the majority of time it has been due to physical injury. And then BJD followed. My params were fine and no other corals got infected. I find esp. with Euphyllia if the tissue gets damaged they become very vulnerable to BJD.

I agree, but what you just described is a coral under duress. Whether it's an individual coral that gets injured somehow or a tank full that is starving due to lack of nutrients. Corals under duress have compromised immune systems making the susceptible to BJD. My tank parameters got way off. One by one my corals developed BJD and died. Lost 7 before I found a successful solution treatment.

 

[Greenjim]

I built a frag rack and it is right beside my overflow to reduce the chances of contamination. This head seems infected too. I was able to pippette the secretion easily on the rack.

I started the tank in november and i only test nitrate arround 10 and alk arround 8dkh. I dont mind what level they are, i want them stable and i do 2gallon change every week.

I think my parameters are not a problem, but new rocks may be leaching stuff.

Heres a picture of yesterday. I orderd some chemiclean, i will use it for the cyano and it might help with the jelly.

Here is the duncan before and after being pippette. I think that the black dots are dead tissus from the peroxyde. Its only on the tip of the tentacles.

 

[Lavey29]

I built a frag rack and it is right beside my overflow to reduce the chances of contamination. This head seems infected too. I was able to pippette the secretion easily on the rack.

I started the tank in november and i only test nitrate arround 10 and alk arround 8dkh. I dont mind what level they are, i want them stable and i do 2gallon change every week.

I think my parameters are not a problem, but new rocks may be leaching stuff.

Heres a picture of yesterday. I orderd some chemiclean, i will use it for the cyano and it might help with the jelly.

Here is the duncan before and after being pippette. I think that the black dots are dead tissus from the peroxyde. Its only on the tip of the tentacles.

I used chemiclean to stop BJD in my tank. One treatment and a big bag of carbon followed by getting my parameters squared away did the trick.

Another time I saw early indications of a bacteria problem possibly BJD starting again and I immediately treated tank with ciprofloaxin and everything was beautifully healthy again in 48 hours.

 

[JGT]

I agree, but what you just described is a coral under duress. Whether it's an individual coral that gets injured somehow or a tank full that is starving due to lack of nutrients. Corals under duress have compromised immune systems making the susceptible to BJD. My tank parameters got way off. One by one my corals developed BJD and died. Lost 7 before I found a successful solution treatment.

Ah, OK, I see what you are saying. Yes, BJD can be a royal PITA.

 

[Lavey29]

Ah, OK, I see what you are saying. Yes, BJD can be a royal PITA.

Get yourself some 125mg ciprofloaxin pills. This stuff will atop any bacteria problems or BJD hitting your corals with no side effects to fish or inverts. I have used it several times now with no coral losses.