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Just when you think you can trust someone.........

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Dream Coral is a Nightmare!!!

I've been putting off posting this thread for a while but now i feel like i need to get it off my chest and make sure what happened to me doesn't happen to anybody else.Long story short, another reefer and I went in on a big ticket purchase thru a Dream Coral who use to be a sponsor here but no longer is.Both me and the other guy have done business with Jeremy Arrey before and had a good relationship with him.Basically we paid $1300 for a high end polyp pack back in June.He said that the polyps would need a couple of months to heal and we agreed upon delivery in August.

So August comes around and we ask Jeremy for pics of the polyps so we can see exactly what we were going to be getting and he tells me that he's out of town visiting his father.He says he will get us pics as soon as he gets back.So time goes by and i ask him a few more times for pics and he just keeps beating around the bush.At one point he asked me if i just wanted a refund, i guess insisting that i didn't trust him or something so i was like fine whatever just ship us our stuff.He then tells me that there was a problem, apparently whoever was taking care of his tank stole one of the polyps and sold it so he can get the cash because he had a gambling problem.He then said he tracked down who that person sold the polyp to and that he knew them and he would arrange to get that polyp back.Supposedly he went to meet that guy and the guy tried to give him some other polyp....At this point i'm like are you serious dude?Then Jeremy tells me not to worry and that he had more of the specific polyp so i'm like alright.Next day, he's tells me he's going to ship out the stuff and that he's going to refund for that other polyp and i'm like ok well that makes no sense.You tell me you have more so why wouldn't you cut me another one .At this point i'm already fed up with all the BS and just wanted our stuff so i said fine just get me a tracking number as soon as you ship out.

Guess what happens next.....i don't hear from him for days and i get a text from his phone saying it was his wife and that Jeremy is in the ER.He supposedly got into a car accident while going to drop off my package...what are the odds?Another weeks goes by( all the while no communication from him whatsoever) then finally he calls and tells me what had happened and that the package was long gone.I guess the car was totaled and the package went with it.At this point i'm like just give us a refund, he says ok i will have my wife do it.I didn't recieve anything and he continues to ignore my texts for a few more days.I got so fed up with his lies and started threatening to post about what he was doing and tarnish his reputation.His response was, go ahead do it and see what comes, i'm just going to send out your stuff and don't plan on selling anymore so i don't care.After he said that i let a few days go by to see if he was actually going to keep his word.To my surprise he did , well somewhat at least, we got 2 of the 3 highend polyps that we paid for.All of which were obviously fresh cut and died the very next day.I then confronted him about it and the 3rd polyp and he tells us that they weren't fresh cut and that he sent the other polyp and have ignored us since.....

Moral of the story is, even though there are people here that come off as nice trustworthy people, unless you know them personally, you don't know them from the next guy.The world is full of crappy people and reefing communities are no exception.
 
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That sux. That's why I don't pay that much for anything. i'm sorry this happened to you. Personally, I think you should be able to air who it was. Sponsor or not. This can't happen. I am sorry.
 
Wow that's a big chunk of change you are out. I hope you get a refund. Sorry to hear about that. One thing I have noticed is this hobby is addictive and attracts addictive personalities. Sometimes people spend your money faster than they can make your frags. I hope you get it worked out.
 
doesn't look like the site is even there anymore
 
I never pull the money from PP until the frag is in the box and I ship it :) then again I don't deal with anything even remotely close to that pricey so I don't worry about the other person being a wanker.
 
I've went there with him on eBay. Know exactly what your talking about. The worst online vendor ever. Not! Everyone is like that. I'm sure you can find his dreamcoral feedback on ebay still.
 
man that sucks, thanks for sharing...I bought some polyps from him before, took a long time and emails back and fourth to get the polyps but most of them are still healthy.
 
So did you or are you going to get your money back? The whole transaction seemed kind of shady from the start to me. Especially when you pay that much and can't get in contact with them. It seems pretty clear why this vendor is no longer around.
 
Thats really a shame and I'm sorry that happened to you. I guess the lesson to be learned is to demand a refund and if the vendor won't provide one then settle through paypal.
 
thats wy i always say 2 negative feed backs,a warning on the 3 get out
 
WOW i agree that is alot of money to spend, I am not even really into coral as much as I am the fish, but I cant believe you even let it go on that long, now imagine how many others got taken the same time as you, or how many run arounds he got. I would settle through paypal like suggested in a previous post. Good Luck
 
my kids couldnt even make up a story like that, sounds like him and his wife are both lyers and scamers. Makes you wonder whats wrong with people.
 
man as far as I'm concerned it has to be WYSIWYG pictures and ready to ship the next day....and even at that you never know. Day 3 its game over and I want my money back and immediately start the paypal process. Theres a chop shop sponsor on here I dealt with once and never again. i got my stuff, 12 days after i ordered it, all babies half of which died, the prize polyp not what it was supposed to be, etc. Thats the only time I give anyone a chance from now on.

Thats a lot of change man to even agree on a delivery 2 months later or whatever it was. I doubt it started as a scam but probably got easier to turn into one the longer it went.

Good luck
 
that is just terrible sorry you got taken so badly I know your pain altho not to that extent when I first started I ordered $400 of live rock & got charged $800 you all know the "con" company wound up having to eat that one anyway that was the start of my list everytime I hear of deal gone sour I add it to the list cuts down on if I want to even think about ordering from someone (also have a good list!)
hope you get your money back
 
for mostly the reefing community is a tight net bunch of people which are willing to help you and respect the other members. For the select few people that do or cheat people , there is no room for people like this and it ruins the trust level for everyone else
 
Paypal only covers up to 45 days.I didn't realize it until after so there's no way to get any money back.I don't expect to get money back, i know i got burned, i just want to make sure no one else gives this guy another dime because he was saying he has a lot of people lined up for the polyps.
 
Paypal only covers up to 45 days.I didn't realize it until after so there's no way to get any money back.I don't expect to get money back, i know i got burned, i just want to make sure no one else gives this guy another dime because he was saying he has a lot of people lined up for the polyps.

billy, is your paypal linked to your credit card? if so, try calling your credit card company and tell them what happened and you want your money back.
 
billy, is your paypal linked to your credit card? if so, try calling your credit card company and tell them what happened and you want your money back.

+1

Also, contact IC3.gov. File the complaint with them and call his local authorities. After you do that, contact the seller and inform him of what you are doing along with a copy of the email IC3.gov sends you. Black out most of the case numbers though. That should scare him and send you your money.
 
wow terrible situation for sure, sorry to hear. I must ask, though... 1300 for 3 polyps? seriously?
 
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