Juvenile biota tangs quarantine help

[TalkinTangie]

Hello! I just received two baby yellow tangs shipped to me. I have not even looked at them yet. I am about to begin the acclimation process.

My question is, can I quarantine these two yellow tangs together being so small, or do you recommend separating them? Here is my issue, I have an additional tank running, but it has six baby ocellaris clownfish in there with a little bit of live rock.

So.... keep the two baby tangs together for about a two day window before I will have an opportunity to get an additional setup going???

Or...put them in two separate tanks, knowing one will be with six clownfish?

Thoughts? Any information is very much appreciated!! Thanks!

Side note: they shipped together in the same bag.

 

[areefer01]

Did you buy direct from Biota? Also when you say QT what does that mean if you don't mind me asking.

I can't speak of putting the two tangs in the same tank as I've not done two at the same time. Apologies.

 

[i cant think]

Hello! I just received two baby yellow tangs shipped to me. I have not even looked at them yet. I am about to begin the acclimation process.

My question is, can I quarantine these two yellow tangs together being so small, or do you recommend separating them? Here is my issue, I have an additional tank running, but it has six baby ocellaris clownfish in there with a little bit of live rock.

So.... keep the two baby tangs together for about a two day window before I will have an opportunity to get an additional setup going???

Or...put them in two separate tanks, knowing one will be with six clownfish?

Thoughts? Any information is very much appreciated!! Thanks!

Side note: they shipped together in the same bag.

If you got them straight from biota, why not just put them straight into the display tank?
They’ll be from a sterile tank already so they shouldn’t be diseased.

 

[TalkinTangie]

Qt to me..., separate tank from main tank, observation of fish, treatments and or supplements if needed. Treat them like little babies with feeding and nutrition. That's my short version. Alot is behind each of those things listed of course.

To the other post... not going into DT because there are already tangs in there, established tank. These are going into new setups so this QT period is more of a holding period. Hope that makes sense.

Thanks to both of you, and appreciate the extra questions, but any thoughts to my question posted? I have two options for temporary holding, just seeing what people believe is safer and less stressful in their opinion. Thanks

 

[areefer01]

Qt to me..., separate tank from main tank, observation of fish, treatments and or supplements if needed. Treat them like little babies with feeding and nutrition. That's my short version. Alot is behind each of those things listed of course.

Did you buy direct from Biota or did it go through a supply chain / hit other tanks water?

Basically having several Biota fish, purchased direct, I would never go through a regimented QT process that involves chemicals or such. If there is a concern due to size or a best practice to minimize any risk then an isolated observation is a good idea. I use my refugium for this as I can take it offline if need be.

As @i cant think suggested the more common QT process of copper and other things has its own set of risks in this case.

Isolation / observation is fine. Feed a lot. Smaller fish, captive bred/raised, eat multiple times a day.

Oh - with regards to 2 in one system again I've not done that so can't really comment. Do you have any egg crate? Could always do a divider if something goes wrong.

 

[nereefpat]

I would temperature acclimate them and dump them in. As ting juveniles, I wouldn't expect them to be aggressive. How big is the QT?

 

[i cant think]

Qt to me..., separate tank from main tank, observation of fish, treatments and or supplements if needed. Treat them like little babies with feeding and nutrition. That's my short version. Alot is behind each of those things listed of course.

To the other post... not going into DT because there are already tangs in there, established tank. These are going into new setups so this QT period is more of a holding period. Hope that makes sense.

Thanks to both of you, and appreciate the extra questions, but any thoughts to my question posted? I have two options for temporary holding, just seeing what people believe is safer and less stressful in their opinion. Thanks

You could get away with trying them in the same tanks, although if you see any aggression that looks incredibly bad, I would separate them ASAP.

 

[TalkinTangie]

Trying to answer the questions as I see them. They did come from a store, so not direct from biota. A reputable store from what I have researched.

Agreed about doing too much for treatment and chemicals, I am not big on that. My biggest concern is I have a delay between now and the tanks they will go in to. So I was not sure if I was better off with them together with each other, as they are babies, silver dollar size , smaller I think. Or is the room full of clowns more intimidating for the next day or so?

 

[adittam]

They are kept in tanks with a ton of other baby yellow tangs at Biota, so I think they should be just fine in the same tank together. That said, an eggcrate divider for a day to observe their behavior wouldn’t hurt, either. As far as QT procedure goes, I echo the others’ questions asking where you got them from. If you got them directly from Biota, why not put them in an acclimation box in your DT for a while (until no aggression is observed)? My baby biota YT was tiny when I got him, and I added him directly to my DT, where he established himself as tank king over the much older, much bigger bristletooth tang by the 2nd or 3rd day.

edit: Your most recent reply indicates you got them from a 3rd party, so QT is definitely indicated.

I got mine from Biota directly, because I didn’t want to subject a baby, developing fish to harsh chemical treatments.

 

[TalkinTangie]

To the last post, agreed that they are in tanks with dozens at biota if not more. I've seen videos with even more than that at breeding facilities, so that is why I thought keeping them together temporarily would not be dramatic.

That said, once there are only two instead a dozen, I think the attention to each other changes, so that is why I was concerned.

Thank you for the reply

 

[TalkinTangie]

40 gallon for the tank i am going to put them in temporarily to answer your question nereefpat

 

[adittam]

To the last post, agreed that they are in tanks with dozens at biota if not more. I've seen videos with even more than that at breeding facilities, so that is why I thought keeping them together temporarily would not be dramatic.

That said, once there are only two instead a dozen, I think the attention to each other changes, so that is why I was concerned.

Thank you for the reply

I agree with your concern in theory. Eggcrate divider for a day or two?

 

[TalkinTangie]

Okay so follow up for anyone who might ever be in the same position. As small as the tangs are, they did not want to be housed together.

I put them in the same tank but with a glass divider. I could see aggression almost immediately. Thankfully they were unable to do anything more than look at each other.

So I moved the one out of the tank and moved him into a totally separate tank.

One tang appeared to be struggling in general, probably a rough 24 hours in shipping, so the last thing I wanted was to stress them more or put one in a tank where he would be way outnumbered.

So, despite them being together in quantities at breeders, two together in a smaller environment just being introduced looked like it was not going to work.

The tank with the clowns was still my other option, but I just could not do that, so i took water from my DT and just created a whole new temporary setup.

Both are doing good! Thank you for the insight and help from everyone who commented.