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Curtis Thigpen Jr

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I wanted to know what bottle was the Alkalinity because I need to only raise that part and I posted on Manhattan Reef to get an answer. I got this post back . Is this a ok product to use with such heavy metals in it ?

Part A: Deionized water containing the following ions: calcium, chloride, magnesium, strontium, bromide, lithium, rubidium, nickel, chromium, zinc, copper, cesium, iron, manganese, cobalt.

Part B: Deionized water containing the following ions: sodium, potassium, bicarbonate, carbonate, borate, fluoride, iodide, molybdate, selenate, vanadate, and tungstate.

A is Cal. So B is Alk....
 
Randy will verify but based on the description of whats in it, I believe that part A is your calcium and part B is your Alkalinity...

The part that concerns me is seeing copper and other heavy metals in there... Is that safe? Mnnnn don't know??? a concentrated amount would be deadly to corals. I wouldn't want any copper in my reef.
 
Part B is the alk part.

A two part that contains copper does not necessarily raise copper. It might even lower it. SO many commercial two parts put in all or most bioactive ions to prevent them from being depleted simply by the use of the two part and its impact on salinity.

I discuss that here:

The Many Methods for Supplementing Calcium and Alkalinity - REEFEDITION
http://www.reefedition.com/the-many-methods-for-supplementing-calcium-and-alkalinity/

from it:

One issue that has confused some reef keepers, however, is the presence of trace elements. Assuming that these products are actually formulated with every ion such that a true natural seawater residue remained (let’s call this the “ideal” product), then it will necessarily contain such ions as copper. Since copper is elevated in some reef tanks, and is toxic to many invertebrates, reef keepers have wrongly criticized this method as adding more copper. That’s actually not what would happen. Since these products leave a natural seawater residue, and since copper may be elevated in concentration in many reef tanks relative to seawater, then using these “ideal” products will actually LOWER copper levels because when the increase in salinity is corrected, the copper will drop.

For example:

You have copper in your aquarium at 4 ppb and salinity of S=35.

You add a two part additive that over the course of a month raises salinity to S=36, and raises copper to 4.02 ppb.

Then you correct the salinity back to S=35 by diluting everything in the tank with fresh water, and you get a final copper concentration of 3.9 ppb.

Does this happen in real products and not “ideal” products? I have no idea. But the statement by manufacturers that it contains all ions in natural ratios, including copper, should not be viewed as a concern that it is exacerbating a heavy metal problem.

The rise in salinity of these products over time can be very roughly calculated, though there are several reasons why this calculation is only an estimate. For every 1000 meq of alkalinity added in this fashion (and the matching amount of calcium) these products will deliver on the order of 60 grams of other ions to the tank. In a tank with a low calcification demand (defined later to be 18.3 thousand meq of alkalinity per year in a 100 gallon tank (0.4 dKH/day)) this effect will raise the salinity by 3 ppt per year (compared to a normal salinity of S ~35). In a high demand tank (defined later to be 219 thousand meq of alkalinity per year in a 100 gallon tank (4.4 dKH/day)), the salinity will rise by 35 ppt in a year, or approximately doubling the salinity. Consequently, the salinity should be monitored closely in using these types of additives, especially in a tank with high calcification rates.
 
Thank you both of you for your help on this matter. Randy you article was very helpful and I look forward to reading more of your material. I have only been in the hobby for four years now and am loving it for it beauty and its challenges.
 
Great article as usual Randy...

I stand corrected about heavy metals. I never knew that about trace copper and its effects on salinity. Should I start dosing copper, JK... :D

I know that Curtis will appreciate the fact that these types of additives RAISE salinity over time. Its possible this is the cause of why he was seeing elevated levels 1.029.

Thank you Sir!
 

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