Koi with HLLE?

[PaulieReef]

Not sure if this is HLLE. I do not run carbon

 

[vetteguy53081]

I’ve seen this on goldfish and carp and often related to water quality as they are messy housekeepers
Assure water is in safe range

 

[PaulieReef]

I’ve seen this on goldfish and carp and often related to water quality as they are messy housekeepers
Assure water is in safe range

Just did an ICP test and everything was in range to my knowledge. Anything specific to water quality? Phosphates are .07, nitrates 4.2, no detectable ammonia.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Just did an ICP test and everything was in range to my knowledge. Anything specific to water quality? Phosphates are .07, nitrates 4.2, no detectable ammonia.

If testing with reliable test kit, those are good numbers
Verify ph And add aquarium salt or Epsom salt to water at 1 teaspoon per 10 gallons

 

[SteveMM62Reef]

This is koi Tang, not part of the Carp Family. It doesn’t look like HLLE. I Fed my Yellow Tang, that had HLLE, San Francisco Bay, Saltwater Variety Pack, with Seven Drops of Selcon applied to the frozen cube. After thawing, feed it to fish to cure. Started at everyday, when I saw a notable improvement, went to every other day. Once cured, went to three to four days with the Selcon. There’s a rumor too much Selcon, can give fish Fatty Liver Disease. BTW, Keep the Selcon in the Refrigerator, so it won’t spoil. So I would recommend Selcon, for the best health.

 

[littlefoxx]

Not sure if this is HLLE. I do not run carbon

He looks like one of those tri color tangs that reef pro commonly has? He is really pretty!

 

[littlefoxx]

Not sure if this is HLLE. I do not run carbon

He looks like one of those tri color tangs that reef pro commonly has? He is really pretty!

 

[PaulieReef]

If testing with reliable test kit, those are good numbers
Verify ph And add aquarium salt or Epsom salt to water at 1 teaspoon per 10 gallons

pH 8.01, salinity 1.024

 

[PaulieReef]

This is koi Tang, not part of the Carp Family. It doesn’t look like HLLE. I Fed my Yellow Tang, that had HLLE, San Francisco Bay, Saltwater Variety Pack, with Seven Drops of Selcon applied to the frozen cube. After thawing, feed it to fish to cure. Started at everyday, when I saw a notable improvement, went to every other day. Once cured, went to three to four days with the Selcon. There’s a rumor too much Selcon, can give fish Fatty Liver Disease. BTW, Keep the Selcon in the Refrigerator, so it won’t spoil. So I would recommend Selcon, for the best health.

Started selcon yesterday. Soak the nori in it so all the tangs get a benefit

 

[vetteguy53081]

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Started selcon yesterday. Soak the nori in it so all the tangs get a benefit

rr you referring to koi tang? I gave you instruction for koi goldfish
Selcon is a great immunity booster

 

[PaulieReef]

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rr you referring to koi tang? I gave you instruction for koi goldfish
Selcon is a great immunity booster

Yes. That is a koi tang. Was confused why you brought up gold fish.

 

[Reeferbadness]

Not sure if it is HLLE - but if it is, I cured my Emperor Angelfish by feeding it a lot of seaweed. Both are primarily vegitarians and if they don't get the correct nutrition, they can develop HLLE - that's why you don't see HLLE in wild fish.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Not sure if this is HLLE. I do not run carbon

Zebrasoma tangs show HLLE differently than other tangs - the underlying skin color remains in many instances. You will also see scalloping of the unpaired fins. I don’t see either on this fish. I do see some damage to the pectoral fin, but that would be from some mechanical issue. The vague marks on its snout would also be strike damage, not HLLE.
Jay

 

[vetteguy53081]

Seaweed is a great supplement but does not cure hlle. Its fats and aminos from certain foods that contribute to the healing process

 

[Cthulukelele]

Zebrasoma tangs show HLLE differently than other tangs - the underlying skin color remains in many instances. You will also see scalloping of the unpaired fins. I don’t see either on this fish. I do see some damage to the pectoral fin, but that would be from some mechanical issue. The vague marks on its snout would also be strike damage, not HLLE.
Jay

What causes HLLE? Is it well understood yet in the community? Or is it still considered a nebulous disease of stress/nutrition?

 

[PaulieReef]

Zebrasoma tangs show HLLE differently than other tangs - the underlying skin color remains in many instances. You will also see scalloping of the unpaired fins. I don’t see either on this fish. I do see some damage to the pectoral fin, but that would be from some mechanical issue. The vague marks on its snout would also be strike damage, not HLLE.
Jay

Here is another picture. Excuse the bad quality

 

[PaulieReef]

Seaweed is a great supplement but does not cure hlle. Its fats and aminos from certain foods that contribute to the healing process

Soaking the nori in selcon to hopefully provide the days and aminos, but seems this might not be HLLE, at least getting some extra neutrients.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Here is another picture. Excuse the bad quality

That’s not HLLE, could be lesions from flukes.

Jay

 

[PaulieReef]

That’s not HLLE, could be lesions from flukes.

Jay

You commented on my foxface that died from possible flukes. Just started week 2 of prazipro treatment.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Soaking the nori in selcon to hopefully provide the days and aminos, but seems this might not be HLLE, at least getting some extra neutrients.

I too do not see HLLE but rather raggy fins from minor nipping and as Jay stated other issue likely such as flukes. Fish also displays light thinness at its belly