Lamarcks Angel sick :(

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Thank you! I only dosed half the copper so I’ll stop that treatment and get the maracyn 1 tomorrow. It shouldn’t hurt the healthy fish right?

It is a very safe antibiotic, but it may take 7+ days to show any benefit. I am worried that leaving the new angel at low copper that long will leave it open to protozoan infections during that time. I wish I had more concrete information about dosing maracyn and copper at the same time. I think that the packaging may tell you if coppersafe and maracyn can be used together (since they are made by the same company).

Jay

 

[jaganshi066]

It is a very safe antibiotic, but it may take 7+ days to show any benefit. I am worried that leaving the new angel at low copper that long will leave it open to protozoan infections during that time. I wish I had more concrete information about dosing maracyn and copper at the same time. I think that the packaging may tell you if coppersafe and maracyn can be used together (since they are made by the same company).

Jay

Oh does this happen? I didn’t know leaving a little copper inside can lead to infections? How is that possible?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Oh does this happen? I didn’t know leaving a little copper inside can lead to infections? How is that possible?

What happens is just that less than the proper dose of copper provides no protection, so the fish can develop protozoan infections while you aren’t at a full dose.
Jay

 

[jaganshi066]

What happens is just that less than the proper dose of copper provides no protection, so the fish can develop protozoan infections while you aren’t at a full dose.
Jay

How long do I treat the fish with maracyn 1? After that then I can continue the copper treatment

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Unless they’ve changed, it should be dosed daily for five days. If the box instructions differ, follow those.
Jay

 

[jaganshi066]

Unless they’ve changed, it should be dosed daily for five days. If the box instructions differ, follow those.
Jay

Thank you for all the help!

 

[jaganshi066]

Thank you for all the help!

@Jay Hemdal jay tomorrow I’m getting the maracyn 1 but today I noticed his eye is a lot worse and there is something kind of coming off of it. I’m really worried do you think it’s a parasite?

 

[jaganshi066]

Also do you use the Api erythromycin, or the liquid one from fritz?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Also do you use the Api erythromycin, or the liquid one from fritz?

The Fritz liquid product isn't the correct one - that is "Maracyn Oxy". Fritz makes a tablet Maracyn, 8 tabs to a carton. If you can't find that, then the API product is fine.

Jay

 

[jaganshi066]

The Fritz liquid product isn't the correct one - that is "Maracyn Oxy". Fritz makes a tablet Maracyn, 8 tabs to a carton. If you can't find that, then the API product is fine.

Jay

Thank you. Also if something is kind of coming out of the swollen eye do you think it’s tissue or a parasite? Should I do a freshwater dip?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Thank you. Also if something is kind of coming out of the swollen eye do you think it’s tissue or a parasite? Should I do a freshwater dip?

Most likely just some tissue, eye parasites (Neobenedenia) cause cloudy eyes, but they stick pretty tight to the eye and don’t rise up.
Jay

 

[jaganshi066]

Most likely just some tissue, eye parasites (Neobenedenia) cause cloudy eyes, but they stick pretty tight to the eye and don’t rise up.
Jay

Thank you again I’ll go get the fritz maracyn tablet today

 

[jaganshi066]

Most likely just some tissue, eye parasites (Neobenedenia) cause cloudy eyes, but they stick pretty tight to the eye and don’t rise up.
Jay

I started my first treatment today, and I read the instructions but just to clarify that I’m not supposed to do any water changes for the first five days right?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

I started my first treatment today, and I read the instructions but just to clarify that I’m not supposed to do any water changes for the first five days right?

Correct, the instructions say to just dose it daily for 5 days. However, if the tank shows a need for a water change (high ammonia, etc.) then that need takes precedence.

Jay

 

[jaganshi066]

Correct, the instructions say to just dose it daily for 5 days. However, if the tank shows a need for a water change (high ammonia, etc.) then that need takes precedence.

Jay

Thank you, I’m hoping he’s ok. And I don’t know if this is common for angels but he is swimming a little downward sometimes like pointed to the ground. Any idea?

 

[Zionas]

I’m afraid it’s a damaged swim bladder. That’s what I’m worried about.

 

[jaganshi066]

I’m afraid it’s a damaged swim bladder. That’s what I’m worried about.

Nooo most of the times he swims well

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Thank you, I’m hoping he’s ok. And I don’t know if this is common for angels but he is swimming a little downward sometimes like pointed to the ground. Any idea?

That is seen in genicanthus angels. Two possible causes; excess gas in its gas bladder from problems with collection on deeper reefs (you see this early on) or more commonly, from the fish swallowing air at the surface...make sure the fish doesn’t try to feed at the surface.
Jay

 

[jaganshi066]

That is seen in genicanthus angels. Two possible causes; excess gas in its gas bladder from problems with collection on deeper reefs (you see this early on) or more commonly, from the fish swallowing air at the surface...make sure the fish doesn’t try to feed at the surface.
Jay

Does it usually get better?

 

[jaganshi066]

That is seen in genicanthus angels. Two possible causes; excess gas in its gas bladder from problems with collection on deeper reefs (you see this early on) or more commonly, from the fish swallowing air at the surface...make sure the fish doesn’t try to feed at the surface.
Jay

@Jay Hemdal I finished the five day treatment two days ago and to my surprise his eye is almost all better, I did the water change yesterday like the directions said. Should I do a second five day treatment like it said on the maracyn box since he’s not fully better yet? What’s your recommendation??