lets be controversial... what say you

[Magellan]

I qt everything...in the bag while it floats in my tank to temp acclimate

corals then get dipped in their bag before they get rinsed and dropped into the tank. Fish get dropped into the tank.

 

[Magellan]

I have a quarantine set up, but that's only because I'm too lazy to tear-down the 14 gallon I have in my bathroom (it helps that it looks nice).

The irony of this topic, and I'm sure it's been said before, but whenever I have people over no one cares about the $500 of coral in the tank, every one's eyes are fixated and making kissey faces at the $30 clown-fish. I've learned to appreciate and adore the fish that inhabit my tank, but I can't help but get annoyed when no one cares about my sticks.

You gotta have stuff that moves. Here’s the fan favorites LOL (and of course the obligatory clownfish!)

 

[Copingwithpods]

I always ask the store I'm buying from at what Salinity they keep their tanks at. Usually they will check on the spot. If it's close to mine at home the fishes and inverts go straight in, no drip just a bag float.

Corals get dipped and cleaned then go straight in. I've seen people do 2 hour drips but neglect to heat the water so when it's time to put the livestock in they go from room temperature to tank temperature. Also those quick 30-60 second scoop acclimations....like dude just skip it lol

I also don't use rodi water just plain filtered water(renting and can't install one) no major issues yet

Nothing has died because of my methods yet

 

[Magellan]

I always ask the store I'm buying from at what Salinity they keep their tanks at. Usually they will check on the spot. If it's close to mine at home the fishes and inverts go straight in, no drip just a bag float.

Corals get dipped and cleaned then go straight in. I've seen people do 2 hour drips but neglect to heat the water so when it's time to put the livestock in they go from room temperature to tank temperature. Also those quick 30-60 second scoop acclimations....like dude just skip it lol

I also don't use rodi water just plain filtered water(renting and can't install one) no major issues yet

Nothing has died because of my methods yet

Same here, never lost a frag. Only one fish death (fish aggression...does that count?)

 

[Dierks]

For me its all about the fish, Corals come second. I think that is the beauty of this hobby, you can go in so many directions with it!

 

[shadesatsetbreak]

I also don't use rodi water just plain filtered water(renting and can't install one) no major issues yet

Nothing has died because of my methods yet

Are you saying you can't install one because you rent your apartment? Cuz I rent and my rodi system didn't damage my cabinets or anything. I attached it to my kitchen sink and when I need water, I stick the wastewater tube in the sink drain and stick the outlet tube in a 5gal jug and turn it on.

 

[Copingwithpods]

Multiple reasons, first being I'm in socal and water is expensive, also very low water pressure. I haven't seen any problems from using filtered water in my experience so it isn't a priority to buy an rodi system and make it work.

 

[krash7172]

2-1/2 yrs. Never dip or qt. Guess I'm lucky. Only fought typical pests

 

[Copingwithpods]

I won't qt but dipping corals is a definite must in my opinion, I've seen the stuff that falls off them no way I want that in my tank. If I love my fish to desease I'm out maybe 50 bucks, just one frag can be twice that

 

[mattzang]

for me it's both. a FOWLR doesn't really interest me, nor does a tank with all coral and only a couple fish. both is the key.

i guess i'd have to say it's also 60/40 fish because i wouldn't remove a fish because it ate coral, i'd just not replace that coral.. unless the fish was just going absurd and eating all coral or something. we'll see if i can adhere to this stance when i get a bigger tank and toss in some butterflies and more angels.

 

[Streetlamp]

No QT here, who's got time for that. For me its fish before coral, but not by a huge margin.

And I only buy frags, why pay for a whole piece when you can grow it yourself.

 

[Daniel76]

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[Copingwithpods]

I don't think it's quiet that simple as uv sterilizers don't do anything. Sure they might not kill everything that passes through them but if they can at least keep populations down enough to a level where a normal healthy fish can fight off an attack and maybe keep bacterial blooms down I'd say they are doing their part. I know full well my uv cannot fight off ich, but if it can keep its numbers low enough to where my fishes can fight off the rest, I'm OK with that. A few months ago my clown was showing signs of ich, he had 3 white dots, with in a few days they fell off and he was OK as well as my other fish. Was it the uv? Did my fish fight it off on its own without needing the help of the uv? Idk and I'm not willing to find out for the 45 cents a month it costs me to run the uv.

Would be fun to run an experiment and find out if they really are worthless or if they just work in a different way than most people think.

 

[Daniel76]

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[Copingwithpods]

Very interesting, from what I understood they came to the conclusion that 100 percent eradication of pathogens was not possible, only a reduction in pathogens which then trappers off and stabilizes. That's not totally bad and like I said above if it can just reduce them to a number where a healthy fish can fight them off I'd call it a win.

I would Def like to see more info and some experiments conducted on common on let's say 2 tanks both with ich on has uv one doesn't, I'd be very interesting.

 

[Dennis Cartier]

You know UV sterilisers don’t do anything?

That is a pretty broad statement. UV sterilizers do lots of things. Some of it is even good!

Well what do you make of this: https://www.int-res.com/articles/meps/6/m006p295.pdf

You are looking at one aspect of UV sterilizers. They have applications beyond fish pathogen control. Removing yellowing compounds, reducing DOC, reducing bacterial populations in the water column, thus raising the ORP in the process. I have found that UV sterilization is helpful for keeping SPS happy, less so for LPS.

There are also different types of UV sterilizers. Ones that depend on the UV light directly, and those that use the UV light to drive oxidation processes through the generation of oxidative compounds.

So to say that they do not work because a study says they do not eliminate 100% of fish pathogens is a pretty narrow view as to their application.

Dennis

 

[lilgrounchuck]

You know UV sterilisers don’t do anything?

I know the dinky little one I bought to toss in an hob on fresh tank will get rid of bacterial and algal blooms in the water column in a matter of hours. Tank will go from green to transparent with a quickness.

 

[Paul B]

I haven't quarantined anything since Nixon was President, (He was after Lincoln)

But I do freshwater dip all the people that come over to see my tank.

 

[Braves Fan]

For me ,, its more of a coral thing than it is a fish thing ,, but in this hobby jmo ,, you just can't leave it at that and be done with it ,, these are mini eco systems ,, I have always read ,, the more fish you have in a system ,, up to a point ,, the healthier your corals are ,, I have always said ,, it doesn't take anymore space in a tank to raise a pretty coral as it does to raise a ,, not as pretty of a coral ,, this also applies to fish ,,

I have a good population of fish in my system , mainly Wrasses ,, the main reason they are there is for the health of my corals ,, that being said ,, it doesn't take anymore space to raise a pretty fish as opposed to a not so pretty, bland colored fish ,, the prettiest Wrasse in my tank is a Hawaiian Flame Wrasse ,, even though the corals are my main thing ,, I love watching this beautiful fish swimming around my tank ,, I gain as much enjoyment watching him as looking at my corals ,,

That being said ,, I am not going to spend $200 plus on a fish and not get him as healthy as I can before I put him into my system ,, who would spend ,, whatever the cost of a Homewrecker frag is ,, and not make sure is not treated for ,, whatever pest maybe on it before they put the frag into their system ,, so as not to infect the rest of their corals ,,

I can't paint you a picture ,, there isn't a artistic bone in my body that doesn't mean I don't appreciate nice painting on my walls in the house to enjoy ,, what I can do ,, is take one wall in my house and create my own live painting in my aquarium ,, what good is a landscape picture ,, if you don't put a tree in it or a Hawaiian Flame Wrasse

 

[inletfish]

I have 50+ fish in my 200 gallon system. They are just little fertilizer dispensers for the corals. I have never dipped or Qt. and I have a couple reefs.
Cheers! Mark

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