Lets Talk "Bounce" Shrooms

[LRT]

Would like to discuss what makes a "Bounce Shroom" a bounce.

I've seen other species of corals throw tumor like "Bounce" bubbles. But I'd like to talk about shrooms.

Is it Natural and does it happen in the ocean?
Is it a mutation?
Is this a mutation that happens in captivity?
Is it a mutation only a certain species of shrooms that are susceptible to throw Bubbles considered a "Bounce"?
Is it our lighting and/or Parameters or both?

How long have you been able to keep a shroom in captivity "Bouncing" with Bubbles???

Do you have to keep fragging bubble proan shrooms to keep bubbling?

Have you noticed "Bouncing" happen after changing certain parameters?

I know alot of these topics have been heavily debated. Just looking to pull some knowledge out of some of you old school as well as maybe new school refers.

Thank you for participating.

 

[Tahoe61]

Bump, there is a lot to unpack there.

It is my understanding that bubble development is light dependant and associated with types of Rhodactis.

Interested to see what others say. Specifically if bounces occur in nature.

 

[LRT]

Bump, there is a lot to unpack there.

It is my understanding that bubble development is light dependant and associated with types of Rhodactis.

Interested to see what others say. Specifically if bounces occur in nature.

Thanks Tahoe I would love love to hear what other people are seeing as well as if there is any kind controlled scientific data out there.
I have theories based only on what I have seen and believe to be true.
Would very much like to hear others opinions.

 

[Huenemedoe]

Bump

 

[LRT]

I'll kick it off with a very interesting observation I've made over the last 4-5 weeks.

Shroom was really nothing special when I recieved it 4-6 months ago.

Here it is right after Nitrate overdose ( Beyond off the red sea chart high) Phosphate bottom out. (0)

Since I have finally gotten my params stabile in last cpl months.

Nitrates 15-20
Phosphates .15
Salinity 1.025
Temp 78 ÷-1

Nothing has moved more than a point in at least a month.
Higher Nitrates threw all the color but wasn't until I replaced depleted phosphates until the bubbles started popping.

 

[LRT]

Bump, there is a lot to unpack there.

It is my understanding that bubble development is light dependant and associated with types of Rhodactis.

Interested to see what others say. Specifically if bounces occur in nature.

The only other thing I have changed is lighting. Went from Chinese black box to reef breeders v2+
Not sure how much that coincides with additional nutrients introduced to system but I have a feeling it has something to do with it.

 

[creativeballance]

Why question is why is the "bounce" bubble desirable?

 

[LRT]

Why question is why is the "bounce" bubble desirable?

Without this answer sounding like a wise crack. I guess the best answer would be for some including myself they are more desirable. Some people have sps,lps dominant systems. I have mushroom dominant system. I just really dig shroom corals and although not all the bounces are the greatest i do have a few that I really like. I guess its all what the hobbyist likes and wants in system.

 

[creativeballance]

I see.
I have a couple Yuma shrooms that have since arriving in my tank developed those bubbles. I also have(had...it went missing recently) a a ricordia Florida with them too.

 

[LRT]

I see.
I have a couple Yuma shrooms that have since arriving in my tank developed those bubbles. I also have(had...it went missing recently) a a ricordia Florida with them too.

Yuma and Ricordia are really cool species as well. I feed mine mysis shrimp and they do really well for me.
In fact I'm feeding all my Bounces mysis shrimp as well.

 

[LRT]

Would like to discuss what makes a "Bounce Shroom" a bounce.

I've seen other species of corals throw tumor like "Bounce" bubbles. But I'd like to talk about shrooms.

Is it Natural and does it happen in the ocean?
Is it a mutation?
Is this a mutation that happens in captivity?
Is it a mutation only a certain species of shrooms that are susceptible to throw Bubbles considered a "Bounce"?
Is it our lighting and/or Parameters or both?

How long have you been able to keep a shroom in captivity "Bouncing" with Bubbles???

Do you have to keep fragging bubble proan shrooms to keep bubbling?

Have you noticed "Bouncing" happen after changing certain parameters?

I know alot of these topics have been heavily debated. Just looking to pull some knowledge out of some of you old school as well as maybe new school refers.

Thank you for participating.

Bump

I'm really curious to hear other experiences here.
If there's any scientific data or controlled experiments going or even whats being observed.

 

[Ilikefishandlamps]

Well I agree light plays a factor I believe it to be a small factor. My bubbles change size and my euphyllia even bounces mostly do to changes in parameters. If you blast a mushroom with light it dies. If you bottom out your neuts they shrivel up. I don’t believe bojnce occurs in the wild as not enough light penetration happens for them. There is no science here just my personal experience. Light has less effect then neuts do with my bubbles

 

[LRT]

Well I agree light plays a factor I believe it to be a small factor. My bubbles change size and my euphyllia even bounces mostly do to changes in parameters. If you blast a mushroom with light it dies. If you bottom out your neuts they shrivel up. I don’t believe bojnce occurs in the wild as not enough light penetration happens for them. There is no science here just my personal experience. Light has less effect then neuts do with my bubbles

Agreed I feel like nutrients played a bigger role with shroom I posted up top.
That being said I started throwing more reds, greens and whites into the mix lately and have shrooms starting to bounce that aren't known to bounce so who knows.
There's alot of shrooms being plucked from ocean that are naturally bouncing in the ocean. Huge explosion of aussie bounce shrooms being imported lately.
As well as wife follows a cpl wholesaler/divers that post pictures of bouncing shrooms in Ocean all the time.
I think certain params in our enclosed systems may just bring it out more at this point.

 

[Ilikefishandlamps]

Agreed I feel like nutrients played a bigger role with shroom I posted up top.
That being said I started throwing more reds, greens and whites into the mix lately and have shrooms starting to bounce that aren't known to bounce so who knows.
There's alot of shrooms being plucked from ocean that are naturally bouncing in the ocean. Huge explosion of aussie bounce shrooms being imported lately.
As well as wife follows a cpl wholesaler/divers that post pictures of bouncing shrooms in Ocean all the time.
I think certain params in our enclosed systems may just bring it out more at this point.

This is true I’ve actually seen some recent Vietnam bounces straight from the ocean. Bubbles are always small tho. I ment more to get those big freak bubbles it’s genetics and big pushes of neuts and lights

 

[LRT]

This is true I’ve actually seen some recent Vietnam bounces straight from the ocean. Bubbles are always small tho. I ment more to get those big freak bubbles it’s genetics and big pushes of neuts and lights

For sure man I think she follows same Vietnamese diver your talking about. Always posting bouncing shrooms they are collecting. Elevated Nitrates for sure brought the color and bounce out of shroom up top as it started bouncing and coloring up like that before I changed my lamp. Well before that. To be exact it starting looking like that right after I overdosed my Nitrates.

 

[Ilikefishandlamps]

I think I’ve told you before I have an over stocked tank that I feed heavy religiously and only run skimmer less then 50% of time. The higher my nitrates the happier the shrooms and fish and I just started doing zoas and I’m getting great growth from them too. My frog spawn look like this lol. Even some of my hammers bounce

 

[Ilikefishandlamps]

I’m starting to think similar to macro algae coral eat food of course but I feel like their main source for mushrooms Atleast is nitrates and phosphates. I think these tumors are a combo of light blockage and also stored energy similar to a camel lol