Lighting advise - affordable and no app

Oof. Point made, I have been thoroughly schooled haha

In hindsight I'll admit that I made this post while actively mad about the sticker shock from many of the better lights out there. I didn't conceive of it as the 'engine of the tank' but that's totally what it is. Thank you for helping me check myself before I wrecked myself lol!

Also you guys have made me realize that lights are far from among the very first pieces of equipment I need to get started from scratch. Im going to be cycling the rock etc for a couple of months before I even think about getting lights going - and will have plenty of time to save and hem and haw over what I actually want.

At this point, having read these replies and marathonning a bunch of reef tank youtube videos last night, I'm mainly still confused about one thing - I keep reading that MH lights are really the best thing for corals in reef tanks, period - the corals grow 2x as fast and are more colorful and healthy. People were saying that they switched from MH to LEDs and saw decreased color, decreased growth, decreased awesomeness generally. However, every youtube video i see of ridiculous, beautiful dream tanks full of diverse corals are using LED kessils on their own. No MH in sight.

Am I missing something? Is it just that LEDs are adequate to keep corals happy but they're just not the most turbo possible option? Or is it more a question of what the corals are acclimated to - I could see how switching over from one light to another after the corals had adapted to the first would cause some temporary negative effects. Maybe corals that have been grown under LEDs their whole lives do just as well as ones grown under MH their whole lives, as long as that's what they continue to get?
I'm gonna keep it simple for you and me. If I had the option to run MH I definitely would as they work great. Buy in my case my tank is in my bedroom so the excess heat from MH coupled with the fact that I would need to add a chiller adding more heat and noise to my bedroom which is the warmest room in my house was the reason I went with led's. Led's have come a long way since they 1st came out and are pretty dang good now with many brands to choose from. They grow and color up corals really good with no real noticeable difference from MH. In my opinion speaking from decades of experience led's don't have any significant drawbacks and are what I would consider a no brainer nowadays for lighting and having a successful thriving reef.
 
There are far more beautiful tanks from the past that implemented MH + VHO/ T5 before all ofthe LED you see today. Your tank will look more natural, be more stable, and all around more healthy.
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There are far more beautiful tanks from the past that implemented MH + VHO/ T5 before all ofthe LED you see today. Your tank will look more natural, be more stable, and all around more healthy.
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So since I've started this thread I've read a lot of articles and videos, and I think I cant not go with MH or at least a MH paired with something else.

What is the latest and greatest as far as MH go? Surely somebody out there is making a colder, more energy efficient MH light than they had in the 80s. The future is now lol!
 
So since I've started this thread I've read a lot of articles and videos, and I think I cant not go with MH or at least a MH paired with something else.

What is the latest and greatest as far as MH go? Surely somebody out there is making a colder, more energy efficient MH light than they had in the 80s. The future is now lol!
Ceramic Metal Halides beat out old school MH's to longevity and energy efficiency.
Unfortunately, unlike the "good old days" nobody is in a hurry to salt them for reef use.
Soo currently available are low K for horticulture.
Can't use old ballasts either.


You can use them BUT certainly not with a look you would probably find pleasing..
 
I started with viparspectra and it worked great for the $$$. I’ve seen guys at frag swaps using nothing but VS lights and their coral and nems are amazing.
 
Winner winner chicken dinner
I think it’s a good choice for you budget.
Watch par. I had it over a shallow frag tank. Blue was set at 50% and white at 10%. My par 6in down was about 350-400.

BRS has a great video review on YouTube.
 
I think it’s a good choice for you budget.
Watch par. I had it over a shallow frag tank. Blue was set at 50% and white at 10%. My par 6in down was about 350-400.

BRS has a great video review on YouTube.
Cheap and grow everything. Lacking in visual appeal. There's always a give/take. Agree with above, I ran mine at 20/60 when i had them.
 
Cheap and grow everything. Lacking in visual appeal. There's always a give/take. Agree with above, I ran mine at 20/60 when i had them.
I liked the way blue only looked at night. It’s been awhile so I may not have known better ‍♂️
 
I liked the way blue only looked at night. It’s been awhile so I may not have known better ‍♂️
I went from black box to kessil and couldn't believe the difference.
 
keep it simple -
Take a look at Orphek OR3 light bars (sky blue or Blue plus). These are PAR monsters and grow everything !!
 
keep it simple -
Take a look at Orphek OR3 light bars (sky blue or Blue plus). These are PAR monsters and grow everything !!
Are they T5 or LED or some combination? To be honest I'm really not digging the look of T5s. It looks flat and weird. But maybe I should just suck it up lol
 
Are they T5 or LED or some combination? To be honest I'm really not digging the look of T5s. It looks flat and weird. But maybe I should just suck it up lol
All diodes...
Needs/wants.. ;)
 
I really like my ReefBar Pros from 21ledusa. They are inexpensive, slim enough to add more over the tank, as you develop your aquarium. You can use a Simple Plug-in Timer, their Dimmer Switches, or their Stand-alone Sunsetter Control. The Sunsetter Control, keeps it’s memory during a power failure. Also, it doesn’t get reprogrammed during partial power, and flickering power events. “this latest thing from SMECO, is P.O.ing me.“ A drop to 60 Volts, is a good way to cook stuff, and my surge protectors, do nothing for this.” There is a shimmer from the lights, not as much as metal Halides. Some of the shimmer has been muted, due to the Glass Top, and how close the LED’s are to the top.
 
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