Lighting - Electricity Cost Estimate?

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Hey Guys,

So a buddy of mine is able to get me these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0062R58FC/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A8Y53OANBSBW0

I was wondering if anyone knows just how much that might bump up my electricity per month?
I have a 55gal atm, no crazy wattage yet (2x filters, 1x heater, 2x power heads, 1x skimmer)

I know there's calculations & cost of electricity in my location, etc. But does anyone have an estimate of how much the lights would run roughly?

$5 increase? $10? $50?! lol

Thanks!
 
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Roughly: 108 watts run for 12 hours per day is 1.3 kWh per day. 30 days is 39 kWh for the month. At $.12 per kWh, that's $4.68 per month. Just replace your local rate and you should get pretty close.
 
Roughly: 108 watts run for 12 hours per day is 1.3 kWh per day. 30 days is 39 kWh for the month. At $.12 per kWh, that's $4.68 per month. Just replace your local rate and you should get pretty close.

Thanks a lot for clearing that up! Some punk associate at a fish store told me some light was gonna rank up my bill $100....
Def. my fault for being gullible, but now I know what store not to trust going to!
 
Roughly: 108 watts run for 12 hours per day is 1.3 kWh per day. 30 days is 39 kWh for the month. At $.12 per kWh, that's $4.68 per month. Just replace your local rate and you should get pretty close.
Nice math;)
 
Thanks a lot for clearing that up! Some punk associate at a fish store told me some light was gonna rank up my bill $100....
Def. my fault for being gullible, but now I know what store not to trust going to!

Unless they looked it up, clearly they were guessing......$100 compared to what other light?

T5's will use a lot more power than LED's if that's what they were saying....and $100 difference is probably more typical than $50 since most folks don't use just two T5. Four is usually considered minimal, depending on the installation. And guess what: four T5's is about $100.

Where are you? How much do you pay per Kwatt? This could also make even the 2-bulb $100.

They could have been telling the truth, so don't be so gullible when you come online either! ;)
 
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I live close to Los Angeles in CA. I don't know the rate top of my head, but it's not horrible. I'm have to defiantly check it out on the next bill.

Thanx!
 
Almost 14¢ from what I'm reading:
https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.cfm?t=epmt_5_6_a

That's closer to $50.

I didn't hear the conversation, so if you still think the folks were trying to lie for some reason then you're probably right.

But... :)

If they just whipped out a number to make a point about power-efficiency, then I would try not to feel so harshly about it.

They may have been thinking about a full power reef install vs a minimal one like the one you linked.

The same truth still applies. If you compared that T5 system you linked with a comparable LED system, the LED system would use significantly less power.

The difference can actually be really extreme if you're requirement isn't to match the T5 system per se, but simply to grow coral well. Even many (perhaps most) stony corals can adapt and do fine at very low light levels, as long as you pay good attention to flow and nutrients in the system. (High flow and non-zero nutrient levels.)

For example, my low-light tank (36x12x19"H) runs on a DIY LED fixture that uses about 28 watts, which gives the tank about 10,000-15,000 lux at the water surface. (Around 150-300 PAR.)

That light is running the same tank that I used to light with a 300 watt metal halide system.

Those systems aren't comparable in the sense that you could switch a tank full of corals from 300 watts to 28 watts.

But they are comparable in that you can choose either set up for a new tank. In that case, it's at your discretion.

So for a new tank the size of mine, you really would have the option of choosing either a $140/year power bill or a $13/year power bill.

Noteworthy that the $140/year option also carries bulb replacement costs on top of that....so the yearly costs of a T5 or halide system are at least $140/year....more like $200-$250/year total.

My 300 watt system used Radium bulbs, which ran me about $90 each.

So for me, that was $320 in yearly costs down to $13 a year.

(NOTE: I actually switched my tank exactly as described 4-5 years ago and bleached most of my corals, which were huge and grown up to the surface of the water. Don't switch a tank like that. ;) Remember what I said at the beginning. Basically, you're more free to pick the level of light you want at the beginning, when you're setting up a new tank with frags. Hard lesson for me. I didn't even use a light meter back then or I'd have known exactly what was happening. I use a LX-1010B lux meter for everything now.)​

In terms of $$ on your electric bill, I would never have been able to quote a number to someone....I use a calculator like this one the power company has on the "how to save money" section of their website: Appliance Energy Usage Calculator

I hope that helps....and if you maybe think the store deserves a second chance now, give it to em! :) (I realize maybe not too.)
 
Honestly I think she was just highly misinformed. Every question I asked her she would ask a colleague (which is completely acceptable)
And when it came to the electricity comment, it was in regards to a Kessil... which is LED. She was the one who completely volunteered the information on her own, but seems like she has a little bit reading to do ;)

Really good info on your set up. It's crazy how much watts this could add up / save quickly!
 
Almost 14¢ from what I'm reading:
https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.cfm?t=epmt_5_6_a

That's closer to $50.

I didn't hear the conversation, so if you still think the folks were trying to lie for some reason then you're probably right.

But... :)

If they just whipped out a number to make a point about power-efficiency, then I would try not to feel so harshly about it.

They may have been thinking about a full power reef install vs a minimal one like the one you linked.

The same truth still applies. If you compared that T5 system you linked with a comparable LED system, the LED system would use significantly less power.

The difference can actually be really extreme if you're requirement isn't to match the T5 system per se, but simply to grow coral well. Even many (perhaps most) stony corals can adapt and do fine at very low light levels, as long as you pay good attention to flow and nutrients in the system. (High flow and non-zero nutrient levels.)

For example, my low-light tank (36x12x19"H) runs on a DIY LED fixture that uses about 28 watts, which gives the tank about 10,000-15,000 lux at the water surface. (Around 150-300 PAR.)

That light is running the same tank that I used to light with a 300 watt metal halide system.

Those systems aren't comparable in the sense that you could switch a tank full of corals from 300 watts to 28 watts.

But they are comparable in that you can choose either set up for a new tank. In that case, it's at your discretion.

So for a new tank the size of mine, you really would have the option of choosing either a $140/year power bill or a $13/year power bill.

Noteworthy that the $140/year option also carries bulb replacement costs on top of that....so the yearly costs of a T5 or halide system are at least $140/year....more like $200-$250/year total.

My 300 watt system used Radium bulbs, which ran me about $90 each.

So for me, that was $320 in yearly costs down to $13 a year.

(NOTE: I actually switched my tank exactly as described 4-5 years ago and bleached most of my corals, which were huge and grown up to the surface of the water. Don't switch a tank like that. ;) Remember what I said at the beginning. Basically, you're more free to pick the level of light you want at the beginning, when you're setting up a new tank with frags. Hard lesson for me. I didn't even use a light meter back then or I'd have known exactly what was happening. I use a LX-1010B lux meter for everything now.)​

In terms of $$ on your electric bill, I would never have been able to quote a number to someone....I use a calculator like this one the power company has on the "how to save money" section of their website: Appliance Energy Usage Calculator

I hope that helps....and if you maybe think the store deserves a second chance now, give it to em! :) (I realize maybe not too.)

Thanks for posting the calculator link...I should have done the same thing for the OP as I used something similar to come up with the $4.68/month I speculated above. Remember, that's simply for a 2 x54 watt T-5 fixture run for 12 hours per day and I used my rate of $.12/kWh. As indicated above, most people use far more than just two T-5's.
 
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Completely understandable! I actually ended up going with:
Current USA Orbit Marine Aquarium LED Light, 48 to 60-Inch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GFTSV24/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_RarDybFG56EJR

Only 46x watts too, but the controller option was very useful for different options
Can't forget thunderstorm xD
I too have this question on lighting. I've talked to the wholesalers that grow the corals we buy, one says they grow everything under LEDs, others say you need T-5's with LEDs to grow acros. So, what's the deal? Do I need both? Before I spend the extra $$$?
I have the same Orbits.
 
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