Live Rock and Hyposalinity

katguevara · Feb 4, 2017

Humblefish said:
The pics are kinda blurry, but it does look more like ich than velvet to me. Are the white bumps under the skin or appear to be on top? If under, it's ich.

Yeah it's under for sure.

katguevara · Feb 4, 2017

Here's a better picture

katguevara · Feb 4, 2017

Okay maybe not that much better.

melypr1985 · Feb 4, 2017

katguevara said:
Okay maybe not that much better.

Treating with copper would cover you for both either way.

katguevara · Feb 4, 2017

melypr1985 said:
Treating with copper would cover you for both either way.

Okay thanks! I will go ahead with copper.

Luke Schnabel · Feb 4, 2017

BTW Ive had Ich, and cured it with going hypo. I only treat for ich in my QT process with hypo. My friend has cured his ich problem by QT with hypo. Hypo totally works and is a lot safer on everything. There are tons of people having success with ich going hypo.
When i got it i put all my fish in a QT system and treated them with hypo at .008 and didnt put them back in the tank for almost three months. It sucked but it worked

katguevara · Feb 4, 2017

Luke Schnabel said:
BTW Ive had Ich, and cured it with going hypo. I only treat for ich in my QT process with hypo. My friend has cured his ich problem by QT with hypo. Hypo totally works and is a lot safer on everything. There are tons of people having success with ich going hypo.
When i got it i put all my fish in a QT system and treated them with hypo at .008 and didnt put them back in the tank for almost three months. It sucked but it worked

That's what I originally started with. Its been 3 days on hypo. But everyone's been suggesting copper. I didn't originally want to do copper just for personal preference but now I don't know what to do!

Luke Schnabel · Feb 5, 2017

Copper kills everything! It's poison to your fish and if your not careful then you can kill them too. I'm not saying don't use copper but it can be bad. Hypo 100% works if done the whole length of time. I've had two tangs that had ich that looked like I shook them in a bag of salt. Treated them with hypo and the second day of it I seen no ic. That's been a year ago. Still no ich and I've added 6 fish since all treated with hypo and never had ich since.

Humblefish · Feb 5, 2017

Luke Schnabel said:
Hypo 100% works if done the whole length of time.

Nothing works 100% of the time. For example, this study found two separate strains of ich which survived SG as low as 1.005: https://www.researchgate.net/public...arasite_isolated_from_marine_fishes_in_Taiwan

How oft encountered these strains are I do not think anyone can say. But I've encountered enough hypo failures over the years to cause me to shy away from recommending it except in special circumstances.

melypr1985 · Feb 5, 2017

katguevara said:
That's what I originally started with. Its been 3 days on hypo. But everyone's been suggesting copper. I didn't originally want to do copper just for personal preference but now I don't know what to do!

What Luke is suggesting is all find and dandy and may have actually worked for real in a few of those cases. Odds are the fish's own immune systems allowed them to appear ich free in the other cases.

Humblefish said:
Nothing works 100% of the time. For example, this study found two separate strains of ich which survived SG as low as 1.005: https://www.researchgate.net/public...arasite_isolated_from_marine_fishes_in_Taiwan

How oft encountered these strains are I do not think anyone can say. But I've encountered enough hypo failures over the years to cause me to shy away from recommending it except in special circumstances.

+1 I've seen it fail too many times - even when done perfectly- to be able to recommend it over other treatments that work more often.

Luke Schnabel · Feb 5, 2017

My point was that hypo indeed works unlike others stated. It's worked for me and it's worked for others as well. Anyone can do as they wish I'm only stating it has 100% success for me. Copper obviously kills ich but unless your careful you can also kill your fish real fast too. Either way, QT everything in your tank as best you can.