Live rock directly from red sea

[brandon429]

Agreed. Transport it home in buckets using battery pump aeration it w move just fine. We had discussed in other cycling threads the difference between dry substrate cycling where you want free ammonia, and blended cycling using uncured living rock which is totally opposite, free ammonia kills the benthic imports that comprise the whole reason for doing it


If you add the uncured rock, the cycling tank needs water changes or prime or other binders so that free ammonia isn't there and the dry portion of the rock will seed over time from the castings of the ocean rock

 

[Adamwheel]

I did live rock and sand from Tampa Bay Saltwater here in the U.S. for my 178 display (straight from the Gulf of Mexico arriving with all rock and sand still submersed). I had some unwanted hitchhikers but would do it again in a heartbeat. I had cirolanid isopods (fish parasite) and had to go fallow this summer while I hunted them out but it was still worth it to me. This hobby is all about patience. I also had my fair share of gorilla crabs, 1 mantis and a few stone crabs (man do they grow fast). The life in the display is so much more diverse than the dead rock I used last time around.

If it's legal (and you say it is), I can't recommend it enough. Go for it.

Cheers and good luck,

Adam

 

[chimmike]

no, it's legal to do so, so do u think it's a good idea or not?

I don't see it being much different from the folks buying live rock taken right out the gulf of mexico here. Inspect the rock carefully as I'm sure you intend, and it may end up being fantastic!

 

[redsea]

definitely illegal
FYI... Egyptian Environmental Affairs Authority (EEAA) is the authority which deals with such incidents . Egyptian Law 102 of the year 1983 for natural protectorates regulates and adopts penalties against the party responsible for damaging coral reefs.

Where a damage incident does occur, compensation claims can be extremely large. The following formula is used to calculate what compensation may be due based on a number of factors:
(A) X (LC) x (D) x (RP) x (V)
Where (A) is a measure of damaged area in square meters, (LC) is the percentage of living coral, (D) is the percent damage in the area, (RP) is the number of years required for recovery and (V) is the value of one square meter (set at USD$120, and USD$300 for national parks).

 

[Rjramos]

definitely illegal
FYI... Egyptian Environmental Affairs Authority (EEAA) is the authority which deals with such incidents . Egyptian Law 102 of the year 1983 for natural protectorates regulates and adopts penalties against the party responsible for damaging coral reefs.

Where a damage incident does occur, compensation claims can be extremely large. The following formula is used to calculate what compensation may be due based on a number of factors:
(A) X (LC) x (D) x (RP) x (V)
Where (A) is a measure of damaged area in square meters, (LC) is the percentage of living coral, (D) is the percent damage in the area, (RP) is the number of years required for recovery and (V) is the value of one square meter (set at USD$120, and USD$300 for national parks).

Sounds to me like this applies to ships or boats running into a shallow reef. He's talking about collecting live rock ( rubble) which is unattached to the reefs. I've even seen beautiful pieces full of corralline that have washed up on the beaches in St. Croix, US Virgin Islands.

 

[Reefloco760]

definitely illegal
FYI... Egyptian Environmental Affairs Authority (EEAA) is the authority which deals with such incidents . Egyptian Law 102 of the year 1983 for natural protectorates regulates and adopts penalties against the party responsible for damaging coral reefs.

Where a damage incident does occur, compensation claims can be extremely large. The following formula is used to calculate what compensation may be due based on a number of factors:
(A) X (LC) x (D) x (RP) x (V)
Where (A) is a measure of damaged area in square meters, (LC) is the percentage of living coral, (D) is the percent damage in the area, (RP) is the number of years required for recovery and (V) is the value of one square meter (set at USD$120, and USD$300 for national parks).

Really.... To much!

 

[Lionfish Lair]

I would do it in a heart beat. Ocean collected was all there was "once upon a time" and I miss those days. You bought live rock FOR the hitchhikers. Grab it up and put it in water right away and during transport, to reduce the die off. You're very lucky to have that option available to you.

 

[yarddoctor123]

I collected a few pieces of live rock from Mexico 6 years ago along with a small octopus, and a lot of crustaceans and snails. I was lucky not to have picked up any bad hitchhikers. The sponges and unusual feather dusters are still alive and multiplying. One of those rocks has become the centerpiece of my new cube. I still wish I could go back and pick up some more! ...but I'd have to get another tank lol!

 

[robert]

Yea, I've got a bit of a problem with this...its not with the individual going down and getting a bit of live rock, but the idea of taking live rock in general. Reefs are under enough pressure - the hobby is under enough pressure - I for one won't buy or take rock broken from a natural reef. I night however be more inclined to buy rock which has been aquacultured - man made and submerged for a year or two.

I'm not a do gooder or tree hugger - its just don't see the need to destroy our hobby to get a faster cycle or to cheap out on rock at the expense of a reef somewhere. If we don't exercise control ourselves - then some bureaucrat will do it for us.

 

[yarddoctor123]

I just picked mine up right on the beach...the octopus was a blob of slime under one of them[emoji5]. Imho preserving all the (priceless) life on newly collected live rock is better than losing most of it in transit from a far away ocean and salvaging whatever might survive.