Live rock from TBS?

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Several questions to the people who have gotten live rock from TBS - how long did it take to cycle the rock? Bad hitchhikers? Are you happy with the rock? Thanks for any info!
 
I used 150 pounds of it.
Starting the tank with the TBS rock was less like cycling a tank and more like managing a crashing tank.
Mine is a large tank so frequent large water changes were not possible. If you let the ammonia get to high it will kill all the things on the rock. I got lots of sea life and a large urchin on mine. Lots and lots of cute little crabs.

So I used lots of Seachem Prime.
Use 1 capful (5 mL) for each 200 L (50 US gallons) of new water. For smaller volumes, please note each cap thread is approximately 1 mL. May be added to aquarium directly, but better if added to new water first. If adding directly to aquarium, base dose on aquarium volume. Sulfur odor is normal. For exceptionally high chloramine concentrations, a double dose may be used safely. To detoxify nitrite in an emergency, up to 5 times normal dose may be used.

The important part of the directions is the last sentence. Up to 5x normal dose may be used.
8-12-19
picked it up at the airport and put it in the tank. I tried to remove anything I found dead or objectionable in the boxes.
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Testing 3 times a day. When the ammonia rose above .5. I added more Prime. Once you do it wont read zero on the API test kit I used anyway. Your new zero test is a funky greenish color that doesn't match anything on the card exactly but doesn't match any of the ammonia readings either.
Did a few water changes of 25%.
8-23-2019
It was going
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Still is
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Those cute little crabs grow. I have had to remove several over time.
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If you are starting a smaller tank I would rely more on water changes and less on Prime to get it going.
 
The 2 times i order i had circ isopods and clam eating flatworms...
 
Beautiful tank WVNed! What kind of crab is the one in your pic? Any other objectionable hitchhikers?

Variant, what is a circ isopod? I am worried about parasitic isopods attacking my fish.
 
I love my TBS rocks, amazing stuff. Only complaint were the many gorilla crabs and pistol shrimp hitchikers. Could not get them all out prior to adding them to tank and was still finding gorilla crabs a year later. Still IMO TBS rocks are worth it and I'd get them again in a heart beat. Oh and it didn't take long to cycle, few weeks tops
 
Beautiful tank WVNed! What kind of crab is the one in your pic? Any other objectionable hitchhikers?

Variant, what is a circ isopod? I am worried about parasitic isopods attacking my fish.
Cirolanid Isopods are isopods that attached to fish and suck blood and leave bite marks and scars. They are also opportunistic eaters so they can survive fallow tanks.

I recently contemplated if a high dosage of Interceptor could be used to treat the tank prior to use. Probably pulling out any decorator crabs and inverts you want to keep alive.

The other pests I had both times were the flatworms that eat clams and whelk snails that eat clams. I also observed, with lesser confidence, small baby bobbit worms.

I like nice fish and clams in addition to corals so the idea of these pests that are more difficult to erradicate has me turned off on live rock.

Things like gorilla crabs and aiptasia are fine IMO but those dang isopods and clam eating flatworms are the worst.... as if keeping things alive in reefs werent hard enough as it is.
 
TBS rock was almost no cycle for me. I had to do what @WVNed did also, as there will be die off.

one trick for the hitch hikers is club soda. Did not hurt anything in any way. Granted my rock was cured/stabilized in a feeding trough, but when it came out of there, I just poured a little on each rock and out came whatever was in it. I put what I didn’t want in sumps throughout the house of it was sump friendly, feed some crabs to the Puffers, and put the things I wanted to keep in the tank that used that rock.

there were all kinds of hitchhikers, but to me it is worth it and expected. With rocks “grown” in nature, so to speak, you cannot keep nature out.
 
Thanks for the replies. My main concern are the isopods and I didn't know they could survive a fallow tank. That's terrible. Does anyone know if the isopod populations are seasonal at all? So higher at certain times of the year?
I have a sailfin tang and clownfish that I got in 2001. I want to replace my rock but I also need to keep them safe. Maybe I will try the club soda trick to get rid of the isopods/bobbit worms/mantis shrimp/gorilla crabs. Or KP aquatics shipped overnight in wet newspaper. More die off/longer cycle but not as many hitchhikers.
 
From another forum i read, it seemed like April was the time most people noticed cirolanid isopods. However, i can’t comment with 100% confidence, as thats the only thing i’ve really read, and im sure you can get them at any point. Also, they arent as common as most people make them seem, so dont let that deter you from getting live rock. I just placed an order for the package with TBS and i cant wait to see what comes on mine! Thats the fun in live rock after all.
 

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