Live Rock Shipped In Water

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I just caught that KP Aquatics now has an option to ship live rock fully submerged in water. I know it’s a bit more expensive and a pain to ship, but minimal die off and makes for some happy sponges (exposing sponges to air can and will kill them).

Who else ships live rock fully submerged? I’m about ready to stock my 180 plus 70 sump finally and am wanting g to order live rock from multiple sources that ship submerged.

Thanks and happy reefing! (autocorrect)
 
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Live-rock with critters on and in them have its pros and cons. If you have an established cycled tank i would go with plain dry rock and throw it in the sump for added bacteria space. If you want the added bio-diversity of macro-organisms in your sump then go with the submerged option but be prepared to deal with any bad-hitch hikers. if your tank is cycled it shouldn't be an issue either way.
 
Live-rock with critters on and in them have its pros and cons. If you have an established cycled tank i would go with plain dry rock and throw it in the sump for added bacteria space. If you want the added bio-diversity of macro-organisms in your sump then go with the submerged option but be prepared to deal with any bad-hitch hikers. if your tank is cycled it shouldn't be an issue either way.

Understood! This is a new setup and I am a biodiversity kind of person. I am also prepared to deal with hitch-hikers. I had an SPS tank a decade back that was successful. My favorite part was adding live rock and watching everything!
 
TBS ships in water. 25 pounds to a box if I remember right.
 
@abbypoodle I'm in the same boat! love seeing the growth of diversity in our tanks and believe that a balanced "ecosystem" in our tanks is the best solution to many issues!! If you go with the submerged option make sure you post pics! I would love to see what you wind up getting..
 
TBS - that is the primary and original shipping from ocean fully submerged to the closest air freight terminal to you. It isn't going to get any better than that. KP may go to your house, I don't recall but TBS goes to air freight so you need to pick it up. Plenty of people use the rock with great success and it really is probably the best stuff hobbyists can buy at the moment. Best is probably a bit subjective I know so we'll just leave it at that. KP is a good source also I hear and the corals I've ordered from them arrive in great shape. So I think it comes down to which you prefer after talking to them. I talk to Richard off and on and he is a swell guy. So shoot both a email telling them what you want and maybe go from there.

On the pest front. Don't get caught up on that. TBS lists what you may get and with a little bit of patience, and this hobby requires a lot, anything can be caught. I ordered rock for my first reef back in 1999 when we could get it live from Fiji. It was wrapped in wet news papers and I still had plenty of unwanted creatures like crabs and what not. Simple trap and a week later they are gone. Nothing was killed or harmed and I learned a lot about how the ocean works because of it.

You are going to get both good and pesty hitchhikers. That means crabs both good and bad, pistol and mantis shrimp, flower corals, sponges, etc. What I'm trying to say is that you can remove just about all if it with little to no trouble other than your time. And none of it is going to escalate to the nuclear level where you have to tear it apart to remove it. Make sense?

Lastly I'll say this. No, two things I'll end on. We can have great quarantine and isolation procedures to include dips and baths but when we take from source A and place in our display that all goes out the door. There is no stopping Mother Nature. She has an iron will and things happen. So have good protocols but know anything we add to our tanks still bring risk of adding something. And the bigger thing is this. Dry rock, regardless of source, will take 1 to 2 years to fully mature. The more porous it is maybe even longer. Meaning - 1 year in on the surface it looks nice, algae, biological filter, coralline algae, etc. Take that same rock, lift it, turn 180 degrees, and guess what. It looks like you just put it in...

TL; DR - you have a couple choices and I'd recommend reaching out to both. Don't worry about pests. If in your budget it is the best stuff and the best way to build a reef tank (in my opinion - I'm using 170lbs of dry pukani and will never recommend dry to anyone after this experience 2 years in).

Best of luck to you.
 
I got a shipment without water from LiveRockNReef. They insist on putting it right into main tank immedieately otherwise everything will die. This seemed scary but I did it and everything lived:
-lots of sponges
-nice gorgonian
-2 Rose Corals
-feather dusters; spaghetti worms
-macroalgaes
-urchin
-limpets; snails
.....but also a few aiptasia and bubble algae, but no problem.

Shape of rock wasn't as nice as KP but acceptable. KP rock was not shipped in water either but he recommended curing. So I cured (with skimmer) but tank fouled and everything (brittle stars and 2 hermits) died except 1 featherduster and 1 Curly-Q anemone (which I have to remove). There wasn't much "macro"-life on this rock at all, unlike with LiveRockNReef. I'm sure getting it in water would be better but I couldn't see driving to airport for 25lbs.

I'd recommend a mix of the two: KP for nicer shaped rock and LiveRockNReef to introduce more organisms. (And, you might get a different bacterial biodiversity, if this is possible, by getting some rock from the Atlantic and some from the Gulf).
 

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