LiveAquaria's Divers Den

[haleyf1024]

Has anyone here ever gotten fish from DD that had any illness (ich, brook, flukes etc)? I know they QT fish pretty well, and a lot of people put the fish from them right into DT. But my tank is 100% ich free and has no illness in it. Problem is, the water is too clean and corals are starving. I need more fish, like now. So I just want to know if anyone here has ever gotten a fish with bacterial, fungal, or parasitic problems from them. I know QT is ideal, and I probably will try to for 2-3 weeks as long as my coral can hold out. Thanks for any info!!

 

[ChristopherKriens]

There are rare cases where it make sense to skip quarantine, wanting to add nutrients isn't one of them in my opinion. Divers Den still recommends quarantining their fish. There are ways to add nutrients to the water outside of fish; feed a bit more, dose some amino acids, kill the skimmer.. This will keep your corals alive while you excercise a proper quarantine and keep all your current and future fish healthy.

 

[jedimasterben]

Why do you need fish? Just feed the tank.



To answer your question, though, yes, I've received a couple of fish from DD that have had internal parasites and needed a round of praziquantel and one fish that came in with visible ich cysts.

 

[haleyf1024]

I have been feeding and dosing the tank. My tank is lightly stocked, and now I have been feeding multiple meals a day (5 ish) and always throw extra in and let it sink to the bottom. I have posted about the issue before and the majority agreed that fish are needed, especially if feeding hasn't worked.

 

[vedros74]

I had a couple come in from DD and made the mistake of not qaurantining them then had to end up catching all my fish to qaurantine and go fallow for 72 days

 

[jedimasterben]

I have been feeding and dosing the tank. My tank is lightly stocked, and now I have been feeding multiple meals a day (5 ish) and always throw extra in and let it sink to the bottom. I have posted about the issue before and the majority agreed that fish are needed, especially if feeding hasn't worked.

Well, the majority are just wrong. There is nothing that changes when you have fish that eat the food or whether it just breaks down on its own. Fish are extremely inefficient at processing what they eat, especially herbivores.

 

[haleyf1024]

I had a couple come in from DD and made the mistake of not qaurantining them then had to end up catching all my fish to qaurantine and go fallow for 72 days

Thanks for the reply. Was it ich that they came with?

 

[vedros74]

Thanks for the reply. Was it ich that they came with?

Yes it was ich. The bad part was I had just quarantined everything and put them back in the tank a couple weeks before I added the fish so I ended up having to redo the whole process which is really aggravating and a lot of work but lesson learned on that one

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I have been feeding and dosing the tank. My tank is lightly stocked, and now I have been feeding multiple meals a day (5 ish) and always throw extra in and let it sink to the bottom. I have posted about the issue before and the majority agreed that fish are needed, especially if feeding hasn't worked.

If you are feeding 5 times a day and there is extra food decaying on the bottom, it seems fairly unlikely the corals are starving for either nitrogen or phosphorus, unless you are aggressively exporting nutrients such as with too much GFO.

 

[haleyf1024]

Yes it was ich. The bad part was I had just quarantined everything and put them back in the tank a couple weeks before I added the fish so I ended up having to redo the whole process which is really aggravating and a lot of work but lesson learned on that one

Alright. If it was in their system then it probably is still in there now. Guess I will have to QT the fish, thanks for the heads up.

 

[vedros74]

I know it wasn't just me either because my friend got fish from them on the same order and his tank broke out in ich also. I have a powder blue in my tank and qaurantine EVERY fish before it goes in the main tank. It's well worth it considering it could wipe out your tank

 

[4FordFamily]

Divers Den will not guarantee fish are parasite-free because they cannot (without charging us 3x the price they already charge and still, stuff happens).

It is by far the BEST place to source fish from, IMO but it is not an excuse not to quarantine. Quarantine ALL fish.

I suggest 10 days in cupramine @ .55 PPM (bring it up slowly over 3-4 days), and then two tank transfers before going in to the display. That should take care of it. Humblefish doesn't really endorse this yet, but it makes perfect sense if you understand the life cycle of ich and velvet. During the tank transfers, running prazi for those 6 days will also be helpful for flukes and such. If you wanted to be very safe, you could run prazi the entire time but because prazi is reef safe, I am OK taking a bit of a risk there. I've dosed prazi in all of my reef tanks several times without harming a single invert or fish.

 

[philfree]

If you are feeding 5 times a day and there is extra food decaying on the bottom, it seems fairly unlikely the corals are starving for either nitrogen or phosphorus, unless you are aggressively exporting nutrients such as with too much GFO.

+1

Also, what ChrisKriens said, could just kill the skimmer.

 

[booth2010]

It is by far the BEST place to source fish from, IMO but it is not an excuse not to quarantine. Quarantine ALL fish

Not to get off topic, but does this refer to Live Aquaria in general or just the Divers Den part of the site?

 

[4FordFamily]

Not to get off topic, but does this refer to Live Aquaria in general or just the Divers Den part of the site?

all sources, including divers den. Divers den is the best of the best IMO but still not perfect

 

[Humblefish]

I'm a big fan of LA & DD ... however this fish came from them (DD specimen): https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/bizarre-white-patches-on-new-crosshatch-trigger.200336/

Nuff said

 

[JOKER]

If you are running filter socks remove them and it will help a bunch. I just recently had same problem. Everything was taking a hit and looking bad. Since removing filter socks coral has improved a TON. I lost almost all my SPS and LPS. A few days after removing so0cks tank turned around.

 

[4FordFamily]

I'm a big fan of LA & DD ... however this fish came from them (DD specimen): https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/bizarre-white-patches-on-new-crosshatch-trigger.200336/

Nuff said

Wow I just discovered that thread what the heck