Looking to bring my sump in the basement (Pump Question)

[sweet22]

My sump has been in my living room for way too long. It's time to bring it to the basement. I am looking at an external pump and I want to make sure it will be sufficient for my next tank as well 90 Gallon. My current tank is a 75G. I have about 11 feet vertical to go and 31 feet in length with probably 3 90 degrees. I am wondering if the Hydor Seltz D 3200 is a good fit for my needs.

Thanx.

 

[Hemmdog]

A100 DC Controllable Pump (2,200 GPH)

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[ScottieB]

Hopefully you didn’t pull the trigger on the sale... I’m afraid the Hydor pump is not gonna push any water up 11 feet let alone around 31 feet of vertical. Not sure there’s a DC pump available that will do that, maybe that abyzz will come close but it better at that price.

Maybe something like a reeflo pump?, they can work with that head pressure. I have a similar setup and I’m surprised at the head pressure I build up with 10-12 feet of vertical and a couple 90’s.

 

[mfinn]

Someone else just asked about pumps and sumps in the basement.
My recommendations to that person were checking out the Iwaki 100, someone else said the Iwaki 70 and I also mention the Reeflo pumps.
These pumps are not totally silent like a dc pump would be but since it's in the basement I'm assuming it doesn't need to be.
If your budget is bigger maybe the Red Dragon or Abyzz pumps are what you want.

 

[CC13]

I use Reeflo Hammerhead and its a beast. It has been running pretty much non-stop for over 3 years and its a very powerful unit.

 

[sweet22]

I have not pull the trigger and I want to clarify it's 31 feet horizontally. Thanx for the replies so far.

 

[DeniseAndy]

I think my push up is easily 12ft and al least 2 90s. I run a Blueline 40. Have done for over 12 years. And this pump was bought used. It has never failed. I do have a backup I just bought, the Blueline 55 (just in case I jinxed myself here). Not silent but any means, but not heard from upstairs.

 

[mfinn]

I have not pull the trigger and I want to clarify it's 31 feet horizontally. Thanx for the replies so far.

I don't think the horizontal run is going to affect the head loss much. There may be some friction but not much if you don't downsize the pipe diameter compared to the outlet on the pump.

 

[DeniseAndy]

Oh forgot to mention, my blueline pumps up to 1.5" piping and then goes down again to 1" outlets. I have a 210g main display tank and bout 70g sump.

 

[NanoDJS]

With your sump in the basement I can only recommend a Danner Mag Drive , most likely an 18 to get up that curve and have around 800 gph at supply nozzle ( I run the same setup in my house to a 80g ) most reef ready durso corner overflows are rated for 800 gph , I did supply in 3/4" and return in 1" been running flawless for 4 years on a 15 year old pump. Mag 18 ( It doubles as a heater too lol )DC pumps cant cut the mustard on head pressure yet.

 

[NanoDJS]

every 3/4" 90 is 2.5' of restriction also so keep that in mind

 

[sweet22]

every 3/4" 90 is 2.5' of restriction also so keep that in mind

Thanx that is the kind of information I am looking for. I can do the math and then based on wattage, capacity, price and feedback I can make an educated purchase.

 

[14 foot reef]

I really think reeflo is your answer for this application. Danner mag drive 18 not even close to working.
you will need real power here. The best pump would have been the Suntail 4000 reeflo, but they don't make it any longer. Huge amount of flow for a small power consumption. I run two on my system, and have two on the shelf as backups. look into the hammerhead reeflo, second best thing( Still available)

FLOW CHART ALL PUMPS

www.reeflopumps.com

 

[Quietman]

Once you do calculations add a good 25-50%. There's nothing like a big centrifugal pump with an AC induction motor for reliability. Add in magnetic coupling so mechanical seals don't cause issues and it's perfect - unless you want it in your living room . They also do well when you throttle outlet (never inlet). So higher flow is adjustable down. And you don't have to get the size exactly right - as long as you're not throttling greater than 50% of the designed flow rate any good reviewed quality pump should last a decade.

 

[ca1ore]

Lots of external, pressure-rated pump options. For a smaller tank, I’d personally look to the magnetically-driven, decades-reliable options like Iwaki or PanWorld/Blueline. No seals to deal with, and generally pretty good at not transferring excess heat to the water. Piping diameter makes a big difference to back pressure on long runs; even those that have sizable horizontal runs. You should be able to find a flow rate for your system from the PanWorld range, for example. If you needed north of 1,700 gph, I’d personally look to the dolphin/ampmaster pumps. A step up from reeflo IME.

 

[Potatohead]

Iwaki 55, maybe 70 IMO