Lost yellow eye tang

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Found my yellow eye tang dead tonight and I'm not very happy. I recently added him to my tank along with 3 cardinals about 2 weeks ago. He lost his color and never really ate that much. I have other fish in tank and they seem fine. I do my water changes when ammonia and nitrites get little high. I have a 55 gallon tank with 2 clowns, a Klein butterfly, coral beauty, 2 damsels and 3 cardinals. He seemed fine for first few days but then became really shy and started to loose his color. Any suggestions or advice?
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Your ammonia and nitrate shouldn't be constantly spiking at all... Your ammonia should remain at 0 at all times and nitrates should be very low... What kind of filtration do you have?
 
Your ammonia and nitrate shouldn't be constantly spiking at all... Your ammonia should remain at 0 at all times and nitrates should be very low... What kind of filtration do you have?
55 gal tank
HOB 75 gal rated filter ( was running additional filter from used tank but removed to make room for protein skimmer )
HOB Skimmer
Air stone
1" live sand
16lbs of live rock
24lbs of washed lace rock
That's what he had on another thread posted.
 
+1 ammonia should not being going up and down at all.
A little low on the rock amount. Not sure what lace rock is. So it could be even worse than I think for porosity harboring good bacteria.
Sounds like a pretty small tank for that kind of fish and stressful environment with the 2 damsels.
 
You have to tell yourself that you're keeping water, not fish. Water that has ammonia in it should never be a home for fish; that needs to be fixed first thing. It sounds like your tank is not properly cycled.
 
Klein butterfly, coral beauty, 2 damsels

I'm sorry to pile on, but these fish are additional problems that could equally well have led to the tang's demise.

Any of those listed fish would be capable of taking a serious exception to the tang's presence....bullying is a major stress. Stress can cause color loss and loss of appetite. Stress plus loss of appetite eventually cause their immune system to become depleted, which is pretty much it for the fish. :(

Next time I would suggest going much, much slower with the whole tank setup and especially with the live-stocking.

In general, I think that a couple fish your first year should be more than enough challenge. Try to pick something you have a shot at getting to lay eggs. (Clowns are an obvious choice, but not the only choice!) Read some of the posts on this search: pregnant Whatever you pick, practice getting them fat and happy while also successfully managing a stable tank environment. Regardless of what you see others do, this takes practice and you'll be making mistakes along the way. Subject as few wild critters to your mistakes as possible. I've tried to always keep to that policy. :)

After a year or so, you'll have a much better chance at keeping a larger population alive, should you choose to do that. But you might not choose to! I really like giving fish all the room I can afford, so I tend to keep fish populations low. At home I keep the fish number very low, keeping mostly corals and inverts. Systems are much more stable in general when run at lower nutrient levels.

 
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I agree with everyone above you need to rethink your tank... If you are not gonna have the necessary mechanical filtration you need to at least make sure there is enough rock to support a healthy biological population. Your tang was stressed out and coupled with not eating, died, but the same thing doesn't have to happen to the other fish.. Please try and fix the issue quickly before they all die. I would take out the fish and cycle the tank with more rock before adding them back and when adding them back you need to test and make sure your ammonia is at 0 even when you start SLOWLY adding them back your ammonia must remain at 0
 
Thanks for the advice and I will definitely add more live rock and not add anymore fish until I have this figured out. Any suggestions on what time of filter system to use to replace the HOB? Anything else I can do to maintain zero levels?...... I understand I have a ways to to go but I would eventually like to grow some coral and any suggestions on what to start out with?
 
I love sumps and think everyone should have them because its neater and overall better but if its not an option people use canister filters and hang on skimmer and even biowheels or power filters but it all depends how you use them.....
 
Thanks for the advice and I will definitely add more live rock and not add anymore fish until I have this figured out. Any suggestions on what time of filter system to use to replace the HOB? Anything else I can do to maintain zero levels?...... I understand I have a ways to to go but I would eventually like to grow some coral and any suggestions on what to start out with?

There's not a problem with your equipment. :)

"Zero levels" is also not a good target – especially if you want to keep corals. Everything needs nitrogen and phosphorus to live and grow. Having a balanced, stable tank is much more important. (Zero levels actually favors pest-type algae vs normal algae.)

Having said that, keeping levels (NO3, PO4) "low" is a good thing as it makes your system easier to balance. But high levels can work – I just never recommend that someone start off that way. It's too much unnecessary risk and doing it that way actually short-circuits your learning compared to going slow.

 
I have the option to have a sump, but when your tank is a machine itself. No need at all for one. I clean a collection cup everyday or two, because i do not want it to smell. Rinse a sponge during a water change. It does not get any easier than that. Nitrates always below 5ppm. Plus I feed 2x3 a day heavy.
 
I have the option to have a sump, but when your tank is a machine itself. No need at all for one. I clean a collection cup everyday or two, because i do not want it to smell. Rinse a sponge during a water change. It does not get any easier than that. Nitrates always below 5ppm. Plus I feed 2x3 a day heavy.

I just don't like seeing my equipment and stuff on the back lol but i started out with HOB equipment it worked well
 
I just don't like seeing my equipment and stuff on the back lol but i started out with HOB equipment it worked well
I don't see any of it :rolleyes:

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Well played :D:D
Just a simple piece of chord hider painted black adhered to the light. Hand stitched a piece of marine vinyl(mold and fire resistant) around a thin long rod. Slid that down the chord hider tube. Blocks the light, protects the splash guard when the JBJ inverts to rest the flip top glass, and hides equipment. :)
 
IMO, if you're already running a protein skimmer, along with adequate water changes, that HOB Filter is likely a little Nitrate factory. Unless your just running some carbon in there, I'd get rid of it.
 

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