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my bac is on the way for 1 year I always had a low orp. the probe is calibrated and checked with standard in osmosis water it indicates 275mv so ok. how to raise my orp? 150mv is dangerous? because I have necroses on lps corals. I enclose my last icp test
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If you have dying corals, I expect that is the cause of the low ORP, as opposed to low ORP itself causing coral problems.

ICP won’t give info relating to ORP, but I don’t see any coral killing problem there.
 
ok how to reassemble my orp? could i put some peroxide?

You assume higher ORP is better. I do not agree and raising ORP artificially will change many thigns, such as the forms of various trace elements, that is not necessarily better.

FWIW, adding hydrogen peroxide more often lowers ORP than raises it. There are threads about why, but H2O2 is also a reducing agent in seawater.

ORP and the Reef Aquarium - Reefkeeping.com

from it:

So is ORP measurement and control recommended for nonscientists who also happen to be reef aquarists? My suggestion is no. There are interesting things to learn by measuring ORP, and I recommend that everyone with any interest read the following sections to better understand it and decide for themselves if it is worth doing or not. Nevertheless, I have not measured ORP in my aquarium for years, despite having the tools at hand. It is simply not very high on the list of things that one can usefully do to maintain a high quality reef aquarium, in my opinion.

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Some aquarists use oxidizers to raise ORP. Those additions may be of benefit in some aquaria, and they may be beneficial in ways that aren't demonstrated by changes in ORP alone. I've never added such materials to my aquarium. In the absence of convincing data otherwise, such additions seem to me to have more potential risk than is justified by the demonstrated and hypothesized benefits.

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If an oxidizer is added and ORP goes up in 30 seconds, is the water purer? Not likely. More likely, that addition shifted many of the redox species to their more oxidizing forms. Is that beneficial? Maybe. Is it detrimental? Maybe. For example, the bioavailability of certain metals may depend on the form that those metals take. Is increasing bioavailability of them desirable? It all depends on the details. Details that are simply not known for aquaria.
 
You assume higher ORP is better. I do not agree and raising ORP artificially will change many thigns, such as the forms of various trace elements, that is not necessarily better.

FWIW, adding hydrogen peroxide more often lowers ORP than raises it. There are threads about why, but H2O2 is also a reducing agent in seawater.

ORP and the Reef Aquarium - Reefkeeping.com

from it:

So is ORP measurement and control recommended for nonscientists who also happen to be reef aquarists? My suggestion is no. There are interesting things to learn by measuring ORP, and I recommend that everyone with any interest read the following sections to better understand it and decide for themselves if it is worth doing or not. Nevertheless, I have not measured ORP in my aquarium for years, despite having the tools at hand. It is simply not very high on the list of things that one can usefully do to maintain a high quality reef aquarium, in my opinion.

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Some aquarists use oxidizers to raise ORP. Those additions may be of benefit in some aquaria, and they may be beneficial in ways that aren't demonstrated by changes in ORP alone. I've never added such materials to my aquarium. In the absence of convincing data otherwise, such additions seem to me to have more potential risk than is justified by the demonstrated and hypothesized benefits.

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If an oxidizer is added and ORP goes up in 30 seconds, is the water purer? Not likely. More likely, that addition shifted many of the redox species to their more oxidizing forms. Is that beneficial? Maybe. Is it detrimental? Maybe. For example, the bioavailability of certain metals may depend on the form that those metals take. Is increasing bioavailability of them desirable? It all depends on the details. Details that are simply not known for aquaria.
You assume higher ORP is better. I do not agree and raising ORP artificially will change many thigns, such as the forms of various trace elements, that is not necessarily better.

FWIW, adding hydrogen peroxide more often lowers ORP than raises it. There are threads about why, but H2O2 is also a reducing agent in seawater.

ORP and the Reef Aquarium - Reefkeeping.com

from it:

So is ORP measurement and control recommended for nonscientists who also happen to be reef aquarists? My suggestion is no. There are interesting things to learn by measuring ORP, and I recommend that everyone with any interest read the following sections to better understand it and decide for themselves if it is worth doing or not. Nevertheless, I have not measured ORP in my aquarium for years, despite having the tools at hand. It is simply not very high on the list of things that one can usefully do to maintain a high quality reef aquarium, in my opinion.

------------------------

Some aquarists use oxidizers to raise ORP. Those additions may be of benefit in some aquaria, and they may be beneficial in ways that aren't demonstrated by changes in ORP alone. I've never added such materials to my aquarium. In the absence of convincing data otherwise, such additions seem to me to have more potential risk than is justified by the demonstrated and hypothesized benefits.

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If an oxidizer is added and ORP goes up in 30 seconds, is the water purer? Not likely. More likely, that addition shifted many of the redox species to their more oxidizing forms. Is that beneficial? Maybe. Is it detrimental? Maybe. For example, the bioavailability of certain metals may depend on the form that those metals take. Is increasing bioavailability of them desirable? It all depends on the details. Details that are simply not known for aquaria.
so you think i can leave it like that? and change nothing? Are there any ways to mount it naturally?
 
so you think i can leave it like that? and change nothing? Are there any ways to mount it naturally?

Absolutely I believe you should do nothing specifically about the ORP. ORP will often rise with more aggressive organic export, such as by activated carbon, skimming, etc. But there's no evidence the ORP itself is an issue.

If you have corals that are having issues, I'd investigate why that might be the case.
 
Absolutely I believe you should do nothing specifically about the ORP. ORP will often rise with more aggressive organic export, such as by activated carbon, skimming, etc. But there's no evidence the ORP itself is an issue.

If you have corals that are having issues, I'd investigate why that might be the case.
yes I have necrotic corals but others are doing very well. my icp indicates nothing that could cause these necroses do you have any idea what it could be?
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Most often, it appears that coral problems are caused by something other than inorganic chemical issues. Biological pathogens, stress (shipping, etc.) lighting, flow, toxins from other tank organisms, etc.
 
Most often, it appears that coral problems are caused by something other than inorganic chemical issues. Biological pathogens, stress (shipping, etc.) lighting, flow, toxins from other tank organisms, etc.
these corals had been in the tank for 1 year without problems. I'm afraid of pathogenic bacteria? what to do in this case?
 

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