Lps vs sps

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I am finally starting to add corals to my tank. I have already found out the difficulties of keeping something simple such as a gbta. I know that Sps corals need more powerful lighting than Lps lighting. I am wondering why Lps such as a chalice are so much harder to keep than Sps corals?
 
Chalices are harder because they are more expensive, lol. Nothing like losing a 1500 chalice. The challenge with them, is every chalice seems to like different conditions better than others. sps in general will do good as long as they have light, flow, and stable parameters.
 
Hmm. Yeah chalice prices are crazy! Do chalice
Need good flow? I'm
Guessing they need perfect parameters as well?
 
Acros like different areas too. Not to mention an entire colony can RTN within a couple hours because of something very minor like a change in alk or placement.
I don't know much about chalices, but different acros have different requirements that can if aren't met will lead to failure from my experience.
 
I can buy a frag of a nice milli for $20. A nice chalice is $650. An ultra milli is $120. An ultra chalice is $1200. Plus I prefer sticks!
 
Here's my two cents :wink: For starters coral species in the wild have very different environmental requirements and varying degrees of adaptability to changes in those conditions. Case in point are the sibling species Porites porites and Porites banneri which have similar apperances but very different depth ranges, P. porites is found from the surface to depths of 160 ft (very little light there) P. banneri is only found from 15' - 30'. This is further compounded by different species/varieties of symbiotic zooxanthellae with different environmental requirements. Now throw into the mix the evidence aquarists are developing variants acclimated to conditions very different from the wild ancestors, In support of this I point to the problems the Stienhart aquarium had when they restocked in 2008 after an extensive renovation and ended up with almost a 100% dieoff of donated colonies from aquarists and near 100% survival of wild specimans. While not an invertabrate species the problems with aquarium adapted strain of Calurpa taxifolia in the Mediterainian is another well documented example of aquarium adapted variants.

Some of the pricing is going to be driven by what the current fad is. Some of it is going to be dictated by how fast a coral (or color variant of a species) grows, ie a fast growing coral is going to drop in price quickly as supply meets then exceeds demand (Xenia is a good example of this, when I first started it was considered impossible to keep). A slow growing coral or color variant will maintain it's price longer.
 
Here's my two cents :wink: For starters coral species in the wild have very different environmental requirements and varying degrees of adaptability to changes in those conditions. Case in point are the sibling species Porites porites and Porites banneri which have similar apperances but very different depth ranges, P. porites is found from the surface to depths of 160 ft (very little light there) P. banneri is only found from 15' - 30'. This is further compounded by different species/varieties of symbiotic zooxanthellae with different environmental requirements. Now throw into the mix the evidence aquarists are developing variants acclimated to conditions very different from the wild ancestors, In support of this I point to the problems the Stienhart aquarium had when they restocked in 2008 after an extensive renovation and ended up with almost a 100% dieoff of donated colonies from aquarists and near 100% survival of wild specimans. While not an invertabrate species the problems with aquarium adapted strain of Calurpa taxifolia in the Mediterainian is another well documented example of aquarium adapted variants.

Some of the pricing is going to be driven by what the current fad is. Some of it is going to be dictated by how fast a coral (or color variant of a species) grows, ie a fast growing coral is going to drop in price quickly as supply meets then exceeds demand (Xenia is a good example of this, when I first started it was considered impossible to keep). A slow growing coral or color variant will maintain it's price longer.

Awesome two cents. Cost is definitely dependent upon the growing rate. I think how hardy a coral is also a great difference between the two. Lighting would be the third. Its very interesting to me to see someone with both LPS and SPS. Especially with the different lighting systems they need. The way to solve this is put corals that need less light near the bottom or in a more shady area than something that needs more light. Regardless of what coral type you have you need to acclimate both types of corals to the light. This is a point I cannot stress enough because it is often overlooked.
 
I guess I went a little off topic with my last post. Remember the labels SPS and LPS are just colloquial or familiar terms and do not have any scientific basis. There is such a broad range of corals that are just arbitrarily lumped under those terms it is absurd to attribute a single set of required conditions to anything tossed under either label.

Consider what is commonly said to be required to keep SPS then look at this 240 gallon tank:

Simple Simons Reef, July 2012 - YouTube

This system has no sump/refugium, external filter or skimming or reactors. supplements are 1/4 cup aragamight biweekly and occasionally some super buffer. Lighting is 2 250w MH. Circulation is 2 Korallia twos and two Aquaclear 70's. Corals include Birdsnest, M. digitata, blue Tort, Blue Coral, Frogspawn, Anchor, T. maxima. 'shrooms, xenia, zoas and paly's.

I would suggest talking to whoever grew your corals and match their conditions as closely as possible.
 

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