MACNA starts today! Who else is excited?

[Reef and Dive]

I'm super excited to attend MACNA from Brazil, but have not seen many posts on the forum about the event.

Are many of you attending? Are you excited? About any particular subject?

 

[ichthyogeek]

Me!!!!!!!!

 

[Miller535]

lol, i posted basically the same thing like 20 mins after you because I didn't see yours. I'm super excited

 

[Larry L]

@Miller535 Ha, I just posted over there too.

I'll be there, I'm going to miss all the socializing but the talks are always good.

If anybody else is thinking about it - go for it, it's only $30 for the whole weekend and tickets are still on sale.

 

[andrewkw]

Disappointed you had to buy tickets AHEAD of time. I had planned on watching most of the talks. Got home just after 4 and was about to purchase and see they stopped selling tickets. I figured you could buy at any time...

 

[Ippyroy]

I'm bummed. All online and I work 14 hours a day and you can't stream it later. If there is a way to watch it later I would be very interested.

 

[ichthyogeek]

Now that I'm more available:

If BRS stands by what it's done before, they might put the videos on the BRS channel again, which will be super cool. I hope they'll put the Q&A's on this time...

I'm mostly looking forward to all of the Saturday talks. Fishy medicine sounds cool, and so does the science + hobby stuff as well!

 

[Reef and Dive]

Now that I'm more available:

If BRS stands by what it's done before, they might put the videos on the BRS channel again, which will be super cool. I hope they'll put the Q&A's on this time...

I'm mostly looking forward to all of the Saturday talks. Fishy medicine sounds cool, and so does the science + hobby stuff as well!

They said this year there won´t be videos to watch after the event...

 

[ichthyogeek]

Hmm....time to go check and see the TOS of MACNA....

 

[brandon429]

Will someone please, for the love of all that is reefing ask five or six MACNA attendees how they moved their reef there without having to show up 30 days early for cycling

what is the magic

asking for all forum cyclers in the universe


this is the one place on the planet allowed to follow different cycling rules, get the inside details Ill put it on wikipedialeaks

 

[ichthyogeek]

Hmmm....it says that the meeting's being recorded...I also can't find anything about violating any terms of service regarding recording the session itself...¯\_(ツ)_/¯ . That being said, I lack the guts to do any recording on my end...

 

[Dirk Griffin]

There are some things happening on line....
The show itself with vendors was cancelled 4-5 months ago due to covid.

 

[Reef and Dive]

Amazing lectures today! I really loved to learn plenty of new stuff about clowns and nems: there might be at least 37 clown species, and some perculas are so distant among themselves and closest to some ocellaris. Many are not yet recognized as a different species.

So interesting to know that clown resistance to nem sting involves a lot more than we know, including bacteria colonizing and nem recognizing clowns are self and not activating their stinging apparatus.

Nice info: clown-nem symbiosis developed at least 3 simultaneous / separate times in evolution and did not appear from the same original ancestors.

It was also conforting to know Dr Sanjay has been through most of the terrible problems we often face...

 

[Thales]

Will someone please, for the love of all that is reefing ask five or six MACNA attendees how they moved their reef there without having to show up 30 days early for cycling

what is the magic

asking for all forum cyclers in the universe


this is the one place on the planet allowed to follow different cycling rules, get the inside details Ill put it on wikipedialeaks

There is no magic. They mostly use cycled rock/filter media, do water changes and the tanks are only set up for 5 days

 

[brandon429]

Hoping to draw that type of input yes

and to add

they’d run for five hundred days if asked/ nobody trusts fifty grand in corals to a weak skip cycle. Five days happens to be convention time. Another way we can tell is that on last day the systems aren’t pre crashing

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[Thales]

Hoping to draw that type of input yes

and to add

they’d run for five hundred days if asked/ nobody trusts fifty grand in corals to a weak skip cycle

If they ran for 500 days they would do something differently. I think you are trying to compare two things that have really different goals and really different methods

Edited to add - at some shows, vendors have real problems when they haven't planned to deal with water quality issues. You would be suprised as to how often that happens.

 

[Larry L]

Edited to add - at some shows, vendors have real problems when they haven't planned to deal with water quality issues. You would be suprised as to how often that happens.

Unfortunately yes, some vendors are not prepared and have problems with their livestock. It just gets dealt with behind the scenes while the show floor is closed so most people don't know it is happening. But the majority of show tanks do just fine, because nobody wants to risk potentially thousands of dollars worth of livestock. Between pre-cycled media and massive water changes every night they do ok.

 

[brandon429]

we don’t have to do anything different to a skipped or speed dry rock cycle, done is done.
bottle bac dosed tanks can endure a full water change and still pass nitrification testing in about five days total, Dr Reefs test thread. Up to that point, bac in suspension handle work

a dry rock start that does nothing different for a few hundred days.

Bio-spira works great

I just started a new tank a little over a week ago. I started with all dry rock and new sand. I added a bottle of Bio-Spira and put fish and coral the same day. Never saw any ammonia and fish and coral seem healthy.

www.reef2reef.com

skipping or shortening a cycle has the same basic nh3 control as waiting 80 days for a cycle.




forums are taught different cycling rules and it keeps them dependent on dosers $ and purchases and never making any planned start date. Where the money flows in conventions they use reliable more affordable science and they never, ever, ever miss a start date and they're trusting fifty grand in their finest frags to a rock solid cycle in place.

forum allowed start dates are a minimum two weeks... someone should do a review of that practice and see if it aligns with truth in filtration

 

[brandon429]

I can’t wait for an updated macna talk that reviews new proofs that reef cycles don’t stall, nitrite has no bearing in a cycle at any point, reef tank water is chock full of nitrifiers (proof threads avail, cycles dry tank in 20 days only connected to a running reef, unhooks, passes nitrification) + when we should buy bottle bac and when we ****shouldn’t****

we should be skeptical of the old cycling rules, since they dont apply top down




perfect control of cycling runs this industry, what keeps it from being transmitted as a viable practice to us is fully valid to ask

nearly every forum poster on the internet would agree with Thales, which is why the subject is perfect for review using seneye/someone/anyone.

 

[GlassMunky]

No offense, but @brandon429 why do you feel the need to turn every single thread on the forum into one of your bacteria/sand debates? You already have enough threads fully dedicated to it. You seem to have some sort of chip on your shoulder about this issue