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Hi,

So I bought a mandarin and some copepods (very tiny) and put them in my tank.

Will the copepods replicate to keep the mandarin fed or will they just get stuck in the canister filter? I have live rock.

Also will a mandarine eat masstick?

Thanks
 
I've heard it's best to get pods first and let them settle and procreate for a month or two first so the population is well and established before getting a mandarin. Pods pretty much live through it all they'll get caught in the canister but many will survive and procreate. When introducing it's best to turn the filter off so they get the advantage of settling and stuff for a minute or two. When i first introduced pods I thought they all died, few weeks later they're all over my tank. I've never had a mandarin as I don't think im ready for one but I've heard they consume lots of pods and some people try to train them to eat pellet foods otherwise they may need to supplement pods if the pods can't keep up.
 
i can get pods from my lfs very cheaply, thanks for the tip, I left the wavemaker on when I put them so I will monitor the tank for them.

cheers
 
Hard fish to keep
They have a high metabolism and needs to eat all the time.
You should get lots of pods till your grow out.
Good luck
 
"Mandarins" will not likely eat Masstick. They will also most likely live in a new tank or a small tank. Even if you feed them, and those pods you bought will not be enough to satisfy one, they will need a larger, older tank. Sorry , but that is just the way it is.
My tank is very old but I still feed them new born brine shrimp every day. This way they not only live for many years but they spawn constantly. Your tank has to be in such a way that pods reproduce on their own.

 
Generally agree with the above, however they can and do survive more than happily in a smaller tank assuming they are fed appropriately- I have kept a single spotted mandarin in a 30 litre cube for a couple of years then upgraded to about 50 litres and then more recently into 100 litres, where my male lived happily in the 100 litres for over 3 years until last night when the 100 litre was shut down in preparation for our new tank. In fact I introduced the female just over a year ago so actually I had regular spawning mandarins in 100 litres....

They are however, fish that have very specific needs and they do need a lot of feeding. I managed in my small tanks more than anything because they were the the only fish. They have specific feeding requirements. In the UK most LFS brought specimens feed on frozen food, mainly Brine shrimp, whether this is the case in the USA or elsewhere, I cannot possibly comment upon. Foods have also got a lot better. In the 5 Mandarins I have had experience with (3x Spotted and 2x Green or Psychedelic as they are known in the UK) all have taken frozen food. All did/do take Lobster Eggs (bigger than oyster eggs and have a high protein count), Brine shrimp and Mysis shrimp. I quite often mash up a cube to make a more mandarin size mouthfuls but it is generally not needed. Our Green mandarins that we had in the old 4'x2'x2' tank would actively pick at whole prawns and would eat frozen scallop chucks as well- they certainly weren't the most picky eaters in that tank. Newly Hatched Baby Brine Shrimp is a good live food and stop gap however personally wouldn't rely upon it as a good long term protein source.

You can train mandarins to eat frozen aswell, often done with mixing live foods with frozen when feeding and slowly reducing the amount of live food until happily taking frozen. There is also the methods of using a feeding station such as the disk you can see in PaulB's video. Personally I have never used such a feeding station as have generally had a species only set up or trained to a pipette and target feeding (or both).

As for the masstick. There have been cases with Mandarins eating masstick, however it does seem a bit the exception to the rule. I do intend to try it with my mandarins in due course however I have not yet tried it. One method I have read is to mix in thawed and rinsed Mysis shrimp to the masstick and attach to a flat disc (such as a frag plug) and place on the sandbed. (I believe there is a you tube video out there somewhere).

They are certainly hard work but not impossible to keep even in small systems. It is however something that you will need to prepare for quite quickly, as previously stated they do need to feed constantly and will demolish copepods very quickly.

Good Luck.
 
thanks all, i noticed it is feeding from the live rock, it kind of quickly pecks inside the cracks so it must be feeding? so as long as i keep putting copepods which only cost me 1.50 dollar per bag, it should be fine?. i have a 80 litre tank and only have 2 clownfish and the mandarin. thanks all your advice is appreciated and notes.
 
Definitely keep up on the pods, depending on the size of the bag, I would look at weekly additions of them.

I would try some frozen brine shrimp if you have any and see if you are getting any interest feeding wise (or if it takes it). Mash it about with a bit of tank water first in some sort of jug etc before adding to the tank. The clowns will mop it up if nothing else.

Just got to keep on top of the feeding and keep on top of the nutrients as well if you end up feeding more frozen.
 
Hey all,


just a quick update, mandarin is still alive a kickin, eats like a pig hehe. I had to get a canister fill it with live rock and put a bunch of pods there to create a nest.

so far so good.
 

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