Massive fail- utterly devastated

Brother.
Read the thing in my signature by Diesel.
Many of us study for months before attempting this.

Stop what your doing and slow down. its ok. Learning curves are sharp. We have all done it.


And I did say Id laugh at you pain right?
I am.
:p

Because Ive felt it. One day youll laugh too.

I love you, man! :)
 
Is the mouth on the clam wide open like it's gaping or is it just open? Is the mantel out or is the shell open and the tissue is staying inside the shell with the mouth wide open? Do you know what kind of clam it is?
 
Sorry you feel about it this way but reefing has a lot of ups and downs. This is why I reef. Love the challenge and sense of accomplish when there is a living reef in my house. You live and learn from mistakes. Next time you will be well prepare for the next score. Then can brag about it lol.

People be giving fish away...yo...and I be killin' 'em yo...
 
Is the mouth on the clam wide open like it's gaping or is it just open? Is the mantel out or is the shell open and the tissue is staying inside the shell with the mouth wide open? Do you know what kind of clam it is?

Was open more a few min. ago...

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Very nice! May have just been some sand that you saw it"blurting out". :oops:
It doesn't look like it's gaping and if it reacted to your shadow that's a good sign.
 
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This is what the mouth looks like when it's gaping...if it's in really bad shape, the mantle won't be out either.
 
So I thought I would be the craiglist hero again and get a great deal on some fish. Well, I did and I didn't...

I think she called it an anathest? Anyways, it looks like a giant starfish with long poky tentaicals. It was tucked under the last rock I was pulling up in emptying her 80g. They were moving out of state and did not want to move the fish. There went my score. Like an idiot I put the rock with the poky thing seemingly happily tucked underneath its rocky home in the bucket with mature hippo tang, fox face, file fish, hippo tang, and a powder brown tang. None of them survived.

I believe they were stung to death all the 3.5 hrs. home. Opened the lid and no movement. They all looked burned...

I'm burned. Seriously want to cry. Went through a ton of effort today and was giddy thinking about how those big beauties would fill up my tank. Nothing.

Here I was going to brag on my deal...this guy, moron!


So sorry to hear you lost those guys...not all moves are as sucessful as we hope. Know that many experienced reefers have lost stock in moves as well. Get what you go up and running, and enjoy.
 
Sorry for your troubles but you have to admit your move here was kinda ballsy... You went 3.5 hours away to pick up huge fish for your (relatively) small tank (for those fish at least) and you did so with a 5 gallon bucket. Who are you Chuck Norris?? :D:D It was a risk that I think paid in it's own because for the amount of rock and other surviving livestock you probably more than made the money you spent (a good size clam assuming it survives is $100-$150 on it's own, not to mention the poor stars which would have made money for you if you traded them). Also, since I am a guy that likes looking at silver linings let me tell you one thing you probably gained. Those tangs, besides the fact that were too big for your tank as others pointed out, they were already stressed and would have been even more in a small tank. When tangs are stressed they are very prone to diseases, especially ich. I would have not been surprised if a week later an entire population of fish was wiped out or you were in much more trouble trying to heal and QT a bunch of fish. So I think, although unfortunate, this might not have been such a bad thing. Also, those other yellows you have I would QT or otherwise try to safeguard against sickness for a few weeks.

Lastly, one thing that a more experienced reefer might want to comment also, is the file fish that was in the mix. Those guys are mellow and all but some species of them have a thorn with a toxin and in a confined space I would not be surprised if s**t went down... Just another thing that probably went wrong...

All in all, I think this is a good story to share and RIP brittle and serpent starts.... :(
 
Just for learning sake most of those fish should have had a 5 gal bucket to themselves or maybe 2 per bucket for that trip. Always transport venomous/poisonous/toxic livestock in its own container. I also like to transport inverts separate from fish. Rock should also have a separate container so that no fish get crushed. These methods have been learned through trial and error. Working at a lfs I have seen the aftermath of a 8 in boxfish crammed into a bucket with his fellow tankmates during a breakdown and fish brought in with rock. When in doubt just jump on here and ask!
 
Woke up this morning to find all fish made it threw the night and are happy in their new home! It's rewarding to see so much color swimming around the tank. The lemon peel has adopted himself into the group of yellow tangs. Lol. Who does he think he is?!?!?
 
Sorry for your troubles but you have to admit your move here was kinda ballsy... You went 3.5 hours away to pick up huge fish for your (relatively) small tank (for those fish at least) and you did so with a 5 gallon bucket. Who are you Chuck Norris?? :D:D It was a risk that I think paid in it's own because for the amount of rock and other surviving livestock you probably more than made the money you spent (a good size clam assuming it survives is $100-$150 on it's own, not to mention the poor stars which would have made money for you if you traded them). Also, since I am a guy that likes looking at silver linings let me tell you one thing you probably gained. Those tangs, besides the fact that were too big for your tank as others pointed out, they were already stressed and would have been even more in a small tank. When tangs are stressed they are very prone to diseases, especially ich. I would have not been surprised if a week later an entire population of fish was wiped out or you were in much more trouble trying to heal and QT a bunch of fish. So I think, although unfortunate, this might not have been such a bad thing. Also, those other yellows you have I would QT or otherwise try to safeguard against sickness for a few weeks.

Lastly, one thing that a more experienced reefer might want to comment also, is the file fish that was in the mix. Those guys are mellow and all but some species of them have a thorn with a toxin and in a confined space I would not be surprised if s**t went down... Just another thing that probably went wrong...

All in all, I think this is a good story to share and RIP brittle and serpent starts.... :(


Thank you for that insight. Appreciate it!
 
Just for learning sake most of those fish should have had a 5 gal bucket to themselves or maybe 2 per bucket for that trip. Always transport venomous/poisonous/toxic livestock in its own container. I also like to transport inverts separate from fish. Rock should also have a separate container so that no fish get crushed. These methods have been learned through trial and error. Working at a lfs I have seen the aftermath of a 8 in boxfish crammed into a bucket with his fellow tankmates during a breakdown and fish brought in with rock. When in doubt just jump on here and ask!

YES. Thank you!
 
my oh my 4 pages of your bucket wasn't big enough.

I understand your point. Very therapeutic for me though. None of my neighbors keep saltwater fish. So, in my mind, it's always important to surround yourself with those that know what your going through...;)
 
Very unfortunate for all concerned...

The brittles would find them all as soon as the die and drag them under a rock. But look elsewhere for the killer.

You underestimate the brittle stars.

Sure they will take the diseased fish, but they are an ambush predator at heart.

Serpent stars are the same way.

But they are not the guilty parties here.

Guessing like everyone, but I would place the primary blame with ammonia.

If they lived long enough to suffocate - from the lack of O2 vs the lack of gills from the ammonia burning them - I would be surprised.

I hesitate a little bit to say this but, now would be an excellent time to pick up a good book or two and just spend time reading and let your tank ride.

I'd suggest "Conscientious Marine Aquarist" by Fenner, @Paul B wrote "Avant Guard Aquarist...", and anything else you want.
 
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