maxspect r420r razor led fixture

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hi starting my first tank. it's going to be a 150 gal 72x18x29. i just got it, but have no lights. i want a led system. i have been looking at the r420r razor from maxpect. i was thinking of getting 3 of the 120 watt fixtures. i want to be able to do corals and clams of all kind and do not want to be limited. will this fixture penetrate that far down. I plan on having a 4 inch deep sand bed so i think this would bring it to 25 inches. I also want to run the fixture on the legs and not hang them because I have a canopy with 8 inches inside. I can't even find out the watts per led for this fixture. it seems to be a national secret, because the manufacture can't even tell me when I call. anybody have good or bad experience with this fixture? are you running a deep tank like mine? please help. i don't want to spend 1500 dollars on fixtures that aren't adequate. I also don't want to spend 3 or 4 thousand dollars on the highest end fixtures if I don't have to.
 
Not really a secret. Pretty much every vendor has a chart showing which LEDs are used in each pad. The 160 watt uses 3 pads with 39 LEDs and they are a mixture of cree x lamp xte at 5 watts each and cree x lamp xpe at 3.5 watts each. And a few 3 watt epiled dual core LEDs. The 120 watt uses only 2 pads so 33% less LEDs.

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I have the 160w 27in version on my 24x24 60g cube. A guy tested my tank with an apogee par meter w/correction. I've got a sandbed of around 2-3in. In the top it tested at 600par, middle at 400, and 350 at the sandbed.
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Not really a secret. Pretty much every vendor has a chart showing which LEDs are used in each pad. The 160 watt uses 3 pads with 39 LEDs and they are a mixture of cree x lamp xte at 5 watts each and cree x lamp xpe at 3.5 watts each. And a few 3 watt epiled dual core LEDs. The 120 watt uses only 2 pads so 33% less LEDs.

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can you please, please, send me a link to one of these. I've been to the marine depot sight, the manufacturer sight, i even called the manufacturer. all they show is which led, what color but no ratings on how many watts per led. when i called the manufacturer, first lady who answered said she could field my question, even though i asked specifically for technical support. After asking her how many watts, she put me on hold, and when she came back, she said they were definitely 1 watt each. After explaining to her how i thought that was improbably and why, since the fixture is a 12w with only 26 leds on it. She put me on hold then told me somebody else would call me, which never happened. 2 more calls to the factory with the same kind of result through that day, and I came home and signed onto this forum which i am preying will help me. I want so much for this light to be all I need. again please find the time and kindness to send me a link....
 
I have the 160w 27in version on my 24x24 60g cube. A guy tested my tank with an apogee par meter w/correction. I've got a sandbed of around 2-3in. In the top it tested at 600par, middle at 400, and 350 at the sandbed.
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are you using the 10000k or the 16,000k unit? how long have you had it in? any negatives with the corals not liking it? any negatives at all? disco effect? shadows? I really do appreciate the advise and help, and understand the time it takes for a fellow member to respond. know the response is well received and appreciated and may help me save alot of money in the long run. I plan on buying 3 fixtures if they work out.
 
Not really a secret. Pretty much every vendor has a chart showing which LEDs are used in each pad. The 160 watt uses 3 pads with 39 LEDs and they are a mixture of cree x lamp xte at 5 watts each and cree x lamp xpe at 3.5 watts each. And a few 3 watt epiled dual core LEDs. The 120 watt uses only 2 pads so 33% less LEDs.

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can you please, please, send me a link to one of these. I've been to the marine depot sight, the manufacturer sight, i even called the manufacturer. all they show is which led, what color but no ratings on how many watts per led. when i called the manufacturer, first lady who answered said she could field my question, even though i asked specifically for technical support. After asking her how many watts, she put me on hold, and when she came back, she said they were definitely 1 watt each. After explaining to her how i thought that was improbably and why, since the fixture is a 12w with only 26 leds on it. She put me on hold then told me somebody else would call me, which never happened. 2 more calls to the factory with the same kind of result through that day, and I came home and signed onto this forum which i am preying will help me. I want so much for this light to be all I need. again please find the time and kindness to send me a link....

For starters the fixtures aren't 12w. They are either 120w or 160w depending on if you go with the 20.5" or 27". For more info on the actual LEDs just go to the cree website and look it up.

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i've had it since beginning of feb. I have zero complaints. I received a faulty unit at first and the fedexd overnighted me a replacement! It's a beautiful fixture which has exceeded my expectations in every way. It puts out better light in quantity and quality. It stays cool. My tank has flourished under it. I honestly haven't a single complaint and if i did i'd happily let it be known. I still have my halides and would switch back if i believed my tank would be better off. The "disco" effect, shimmer, is beautiful as light passing through water should be. It's natural looking, not distracting. The more turbulent the waters surface the more the shimmer. Oh and i've got the 16k version. The only downside if you'd call it that would be in your use of 3 as you can run them in auto sync. You'll set the clocks, each offered 6 time points. You sync as you would with three watches/alarms. This is an issue only once synced as its unlikely you'll ever alter your set lighting schedule... Ummm... Did i miss anything?

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are you using the 10000k or the 16,000k unit? How long have you had it in? Any negatives with the corals not liking it? Any negatives at all? Disco effect? Shadows? I really do appreciate the advise and help, and understand the time it takes for a fellow member to respond. Know the response is well received and appreciated and may help me save alot of money in the long run. I plan on buying 3 fixtures if they work out.
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what size is your tank? and which fixture or fixtures are you using? how many of them? how do you have your lights suspended. on the stock legs or hanging kit? how high off of the tank, how deep to the bottom of the tank? do you have sps, lps, soft corals, do you have any clams? are they on the sand bed or higher? what size halides were you using? what are your honest opinion on the comparison of the amount of light/par/lumens produced? and about the reported shadowing effect?

look liquid360, I just pounded you with a million questions, i know. but i also want you to know, i really appreciate it and the time you're taking to help me. It is invaluable ... if there is any way i can recipracate in kind i promise i won't hesitate. please get back to me, i'll be waiting for your response with bated breath... my email is [email protected] if you find it easier to reach out directly...
 
i just spotted the picture of your tank above. it doesn't mention how high your tank is though. I see you have legs on it, is it the stock legs lifting the thing 6 1/2 inches off of the tank. i couldn't tell because of the darkness of the picture. please if you can find the time help me with the rest of the questions i posted above. thanks again..
 
i just spotted the picture of your tank above. it doesn't mention how high your tank is though. I see you have legs on it, is it the stock legs lifting the thing 6 1/2 inches off of the tank. i couldn't tell because of the darkness of the picture. please if you can find the time help me with the rest of the questions i posted above. thanks again..

it's a 24x24x24 cube, the light isn't on the legs it's suspended with a hanging kit, looks about 8 or 10 inches off the water as best as I can tell but hopefully Liquid360 will reply to confirm.


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Sorry... knew I'd forget some stuff. My tank is 24x24x24, 60g. I'm using the R420R 16k 160w. I'm using one unit. I asked Coralvue which model the recommended which was the 120w 20.5in. And so I went with the 27in 160w. I prefer a bit of overkill. I have the fixture suspended using the includes hanging kit. It's extraordinarily well designed and took me all of 10min to suspend. The stock legs are terrific looking but my tanking being 24in is too small for the legs. I've got it suspended 7in above the water surface. I've got around 50-60lbs of live rock. I've got 5 clowns, coral beauty, D.Goby, Red Scooter Dragonet, baby hippo, and a mandarin. Also I have a S.Haddoni carpet, polys, zoas, a maxima clam, acro, milli, shrooms, Stylophora, galaxia, misc polyps, and a shrimp. The entire tank has done terrifically! The clam sits exactly in the middle on a rock. He was on the sandbed but was moved to make space. He quickly planted his foot and has remained in that spot. I was using a halide pendant 250w radium at 20k. Because I went with the longer fixture shadowing is a total non issue. My tank was tested by ALABAMAREEF using an apogee meter. He tested the top, middle, and on the sandbed, those numbers were 600, 400, and 350. He was very impressed and said he'd never have believed a $500 unit would've been so strong. The numbers were better than the MH. I can't fathom going back. The controllability, the lower power bill, not having to place fans over the tank in the summer, the programability, the par numbers, the shimmer, and the overall beautiful aesthetics of the fixture itself... it's a beautifully designed/engineered piece of hardware that's as good anything out there and as a bonus it's a great price! The Radions are a great fixture, but while the features are cool, I just have no need to access my timed lights over the web.
Please feel free to ask any questions you have! I'm more than happy to be able to assist... one day I shall come to you for a "favor"... this favor must be done without question.. lol jk
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what size is your tank? and which fixture or fixtures are you using? how many of them? how do you have your lights suspended. on the stock legs or hanging kit? how high off of the tank, how deep to the bottom of the tank? do you have sps, lps, soft corals, do you have any clams? are they on the sand bed or higher? what size halides were you using? what are your honest opinion on the comparison of the amount of light/par/lumens produced? and about the reported shadowing effect?

look liquid360, I just pounded you with a million questions, i know. but i also want you to know, i really appreciate it and the time you're taking to help me. It is invaluable ... if there is any way i can recipracate in kind i promise i won't hesitate. please get back to me, i'll be waiting for your response with bated breath... my email is [email protected] if you find it easier to reach out directly...[/QUOTE]
 
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And just to provide a little context here are two photos, one at 100% blue and one at 100% white. I'll let you guess which is which... Lol
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Hey liquid360 I know this is a old post but what did you end up running your light at. I have mostly soft corals and same size tank and I have the 20" light
And just to provide a little context here are two photos, one at 100% blue and one at 100% white. I'll let you guess which is which... Lol
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