Mb7 and xport no3 experience?

[Heres_doe_]

I'm wondering what you're experience with these. I hear mixed opinions on these. I don't want to hear about other ways of nitrate export on here only so we don't steer away from these actual products. I just want to export nitrates just a bit better. Without spending the amounts of money for a better skimmer. Phosphates sit perfect at average .06. it's a new tank about 8 months old so i know imma go thru a few things before tank stabilizes. Nitrates will bounce up to about 25ppm and i want them lower without the bigger water changes.

 

[Spare time]

Their xport material makes an absolute mess. I will never use one ever again (I have tried the cubes, brick, and plate). As for MB7, I'd rather go with MB clean

 

[Spare time]

I know you don't want to look at other products, but this might be something to check out just for the heck of it https://orcalabsamerica.com/

It seems like the xport material but instead of anaerobic removal, it acts more like carbon dosing as bacteria "eats" the material without needing to be tumbled or dosed.

 

[Heres_doe_]

Their xport material makes an absolute mess. I will never use one ever again (I have tried the cubes, brick, and plate). As for MB7, I'd rather go with MB clean

I heard this was a bad batch before... When did u try? What's the difference between mb7 and mb clean

 

[jassermd]

So, I've tried both the MB7 and the NO3 export cubes and block... As others have said, did it once and will never do so again!
The MB7 is a staple when I introduce new media or otherwise. Does it work? I only have my experience to rely on and I will say that it seems to do something... I "cure" new media for several days with MB7 and it seems to be maintaining nitrates at 15-20, despite my massive bioload.

The NO3 cubes and block are both something I will NEVER reintroduce into my tank. They dissolve into a sandy mess in the sump; and that's not to mention the Al and Si that went through the roof due to them. I have ICP tests to prove the effect... The posts on Al and Si leeching are real!

That said, I have since moved to Seachem Matrix and the new PolyLab genesis rock. Both do a good job and don't leech crap into your system. If I had to choose one over the other, I would choose the PolyLab genesis rock. Small, great form factor, ceramic, and doesn't dissolve or leech.
If I rebuild my sump, I would cover the entire bottom with them... and I have 300lbs+ of live rock in my DT.

 

[Spare time]

I heard this was a bad batch before... When did u try? What's the difference between mb7 and mb clean

They are all just very fragile so once they are in place, you do not want to touch them. Do NOT cut them, even if brightwell says you can. I tried after the bad batch incident. They just crumble very easily so you need to treat them very carefully.


As for MB7 and clean

I believe MB7 has: the cycling bacteria, some anarobic bacteria, and heterotrophic bacteria. MB clean appears to be the heterotrophic bacteria as many companies sell similar "scavenging" bacteria that break down and consume waste to build into their biomass. They both contain "enzymes" but I have no clue what brightwell means by this. Whether or not they are actively taking in nitrate, phosphate, ammonia, or nitrite vs simply turning waste into biomass before it has a change to break down, I am not sure. Bacteria companies in this hobby are not very specific.

"Brightwell Aquatics MicrōBacter CLEAN is a selective complex of extremely effective microbes and enzymes that not only reduce the concentrations of organic nitrogen, ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, phosphate, and organic carbon in all marine ecosystems, but make maintenance easy by actually loosening accumulations and coatings."

• "Natural Cleaning action on all aquarium and decoration surfaces
• Loosening of ugly accumulations of unwanted substances and coatings, making removal by scraping and vacuuming much easier
• Establishment of bacterial colonies that multiply and continue to clean the aquarium
• Rapid reduction of organic carbon, ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and phosphate
• Digestion of uneaten/undigested food, excreta, detritus, and other latent organic material, resulting in cleaner and healthier aquarium substrate (without having to physically clean or disturb the substrate)"

 

[Heres_doe_]

I'm wondering what you're experience with these. I hear mixed opinions on these. I don't want to hear about other ways of nitrate export on here only so we don't steer away from these actual products. I just want to export nitrates just a bit better. Without spending the amounts of money for a better skimmer. Phosphates sit perfect at average .06. it's a new tank about 8 months old so i know imma go thru a few things before tank stabilizes. Nitrates will bounce up to about 25ppm and i want them lower without the bigger water changes.

Ur ok i said i didn't want to hear of other ways meaning carbon dosing and people saying run a skimmer or buy a bigger skimmer. I'm almost to where i want my nitrates at. I just want to lock em in there. I'm not chasing a specific number I'm just chasing a specific area. I want to look into similar products. I just don't want to be doing bigger water changes or smaller more frequent wc

 

[Big E]

More often than not carbon dosing along with a bacteria is going to keep things stable for you. You may not want to hear that but you can't ignore facts.

Just dosing vinegar would be an easy option without the bacteria dosing. It's easy to dial in, inexpensive and keeps stable levels long term.

 

[SPR1968]

I’ve used the No3 bricks seeded with MB7 and there in the bin after making a mess in the sump and degrading as others have said.

Ive tried many of the different media’s and settled on Seachem Matrix as its basically stones that cant break down. I have about 56 litres of it in my large system (i personally think you need more of it than they advertise). I seeded this with Seachem stability I think it was