Melanarus Wrasse disease

[Ascartes]

Here is a video of him today. The swimming is from being in FW, but he's still normal in SW. Easier to get vid of him like this. He seems to be healthier in the eye. Metro/Kanaplex for 5 days now.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Fingers crossed, it looks like it might be improving overall.

Jay

 

[Infern0]

Fingers crossed, it looks like it might be improving overall.

Jay

Hello Jay, i have a question , how long can I treat a Fish with antibiotics...10 days or long if the infection is still there? thanks

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

It depends on the antibiotic. Some require partial water changes, some can only be used for 5 days, others are 10. I always tell folks to follow the label directions. Remember, selecting which antibiotic to use is really just a guess. If after a full run, the fish is getting worse, consider trying a different one.
Jay

Hello Jay, i have a question , how long can I treat a Fish with antibiotics...10 days or long if the infection is still there? thanks

 

[Infern0]

It depends on the antibiotic. Some require partial water changes, some can only be used for 5 days, others are 10. I always tell folks to follow the label directions. Remember, selecting which antibiotic to use is really just a guess. If after a full run, the fish is getting worse, consider trying a different one.
Jay

My 2 Clowns, one Yellow Tang, one Royal Grama, 2 Six Line Wrasses and 2 Purple Fire fish were in QT due to Ich, I have decided to do the Tank Transfer Method.
A few days later I saw some roten fins on the Purple Fire fish and one day later on the Yellow Tang too. In one week I have lost two fish to what seems to be bacterial infection ( the Royal Gramma and one Six Line Wrasse)
From 13.03 to 20.03 I have done daily Cipro baths for two Purpel Fire Fish and one Yellow Tang, but they were not fully cured
From 12.04 to 17.04 I have done one treatment with Furan 2 but It didn’t helped so I switch back to cipro from 17.04 till 26.04 .
Sadly that didn’t helped to and one of the Fire Fish and he has past away this morning, at this point I don’t know what to do next , the Tang looks better but the other Fire fish looks bad . I do have some Enrofloxacin on hand but i don’t know how to dose .The fish are all eating good and still in QT, first Tank Transfer Method didn’t work so now I am at the second try, today was the last transfer and from Tuesday the fishies should be Ich free.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

My 2 Clowns, one Yellow Tang, one Royal Grama, 2 Six Line Wrasses and 2 Purple Fire fish were in QT due to Ich, I have decided to do the Tank Transfer Method.
A few days later I saw some roten fins on the Purple Fire fish and one day later on the Yellow Tang too. In one week I have lost two fish to what seems to be bacterial infection ( the Royal Gramma and one Six Line Wrasse)
From 13.03 to 20.03 I have done daily Cipro baths for two Purpel Fire Fish and one Yellow Tang, but they were not fully cured
From 12.04 to 17.04 I have done one treatment with Furan 2 but It didn’t helped so I switch back to cipro from 17.04 till 26.04 .
Sadly that didn’t helped to and one of the Fire Fish and he has past away this morning, at this point I don’t know what to do next , the Tang looks better but the other Fire fish looks bad . I do have some Enrofloxacin on hand but i don’t know how to dose .The fish are all eating good and still in QT, first Tank Transfer Method didn’t work so now I am at the second try, today was the last transfer and from Tuesday the fishies should be Ich free.

Isn't cipro and enrofloxacin close in terms of them both being quinolones? I'm not sure you'll see much difference. Lewbart gives the in-water dose for enrofloxicin (Baytril) as 9.5 to 19 mg/gallon, but it isn't clear how long that lasts in the water. Also, you need to know how much of the med that you have is binder, and remove that from the calculation.

Can you post new pictures?

Jay

 

[Infern0]

Isn't cipro and enrofloxacin close in terms of them both being quinolones? I'm not sure you'll see much difference. Lewbart gives the in-water dose for enrofloxicin (Baytril) as 9.5 to 19 mg/gallon, but it isn't clear how long that lasts in the water. Also, you need to know how much of the med that you have is binder, and remove that from the calculation.

Can you post new pictures?

Jay

Hello Jay, here are some new pictures, yesterday I saw some agression from the wrasse towards Purple Fire Fish, so i have moved the Fire Fish alone in a 5 Gallon Tank . The Fire Fish lost his dorsal Fin few days ago, but i’m not sure if that happened due to Bacterial Infection or due to agression from other Fish . No signs of Ich today.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Yellow has bad case of hlle
What are your test readings and what test kits are you using?
Have you checked for stray voltage?
Diet:
Spirulina brine shrimp
Mysis shrimp
LRS herbivore diet
Hikari mega veggie
Sm plankton
Nori seaweed basted with garlic extract

 

[Infern0]

Yellow has bad case of hlle
What are your test readings and what test kits are you using?
Have you checked for stray voltage?
Diet:
Spirulina brine shrimp
Mysis shrimp
LRS herbivore diet
Hikari mega veggie
Sm plankton
Nori seaweed basted with garlic extract

Hello, I don´t test the water as I am still doing the Tank Transfer Method for Ich, so I change the tank every 72 hours . The HLLE was not present in the DT
Curently feeding: Mysis shrimp, Artemia brine shrimp, Pellets, Formula Twoand nori leaves, all the food is soaked in Selcon and Seachem Guarlic Guard .

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Hello, I don´t test the water as I am still doing the Tank Transfer Method for Ich, so I change the tank every 72 hours . The HLLE was not present in the DT
Curently feeding: Mysis shrimp, Artemia brine shrimp, Pellets, Formula Twoand nori leaves, all the food is soaked in Selcon and Seachem Guarlic Guard .

You should monitor ammonia during TTM, I’ve seen 1ppm rises in 24 hours in smaller containers.
Jay

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Hello Jay, here are some new pictures, yesterday I saw some agression from the wrasse towards Purple Fire Fish, so i have moved the Fire Fish alone in a 5 Gallon Tank . The Fire Fish lost his dorsal Fin few days ago, but i’m not sure if that happened due to Bacterial Infection or due to agression from other Fish . No signs of Ich today.

The YT does seem to have HLLE. I can’t get a good view of the fire fish, but is it’s caudal fin missing?
Jay

 

[Infern0]

The YT does seem to have HLLE. I can’t get a good view of the fire fish, but is it’s caudal fin missing?
Jay

Yes, for about 2 or 3 days , I suspect due to agression from wrasse...

 

[Infern0]

The YT does seem to have HLLE. I can’t get a good view of the fire fish, but is it’s caudal fin missing?
Jay

I have seachem badge, but I have it just from yesterday.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

I have seachem badge, but I have it just from yesterday.

I'm not a huge fan of the ammonia badges, but they work o.k. when new - so it isn't showing any ammonia then?

jay

 

[Infern0]

I'm not a huge fan of the ammonia badges, but they work o.k. when new - so it isn't showing any ammonia then?

jay

The badge is new and show no signs of Ammonia for now, the fish are only for 24 hours in the tank, i will test the water with Salifert test, thats what I have on hands.
The Purple Fire Fish didn’t ate yesterday, his hiding all day long in the PVC. Thanks Jay!

 

[Infern0]

I have seachem badge, but I have it just from yesterday.

The YT does seem to have HLLE. I can’t get a good view of the fire fish, but is it’s caudal fin missing?
Jay

Could the Bacterial Infection be the cause for caudal fin and not the agression from other Fish?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Could the Bacterial Infection be the cause for caudal fin and not the agression from other Fish?

It could be, that would be called a primary bacterial disease. Secondary bacterial diseases start at the site of a previous damage and are more common.
Jay