It would seem that there is huge amounts (larger than I've seen before) of one-way animosity directed at Elegant corals and it's owner especially on social media sites. Whatever the history behind all of this is does not concern me one bit, however, it seems that some of that animosity is spilling out over here onto the micro-bubble forums on R2R and it makes me uncomfortable to say the least.
From what little evidence I can gather there are larger numbers of people now, trying this weird new thing of bubbles and by and large they seem to report no negatives, in fact I am overwhelmed with positive comments on my own social media site.
There is no history, except to say that many have seen this type of thing before. A simple method, that has some easily understandable effects, is promoted to have many more effects that have very little, if any support. Someone says to be careful there is not support, and they are immediately demonized as hating new things, personally attacking, ignoring science, etc - all rather than actually supporting the claims made. It is what happened in this thread - though apparently you don't like the way Cruz and I have talked on facebook and that is where your animosity towards me seems to be coming from.
Contrary to your belief, I don't have much of any opinion about bubbling, except that many of the claims are not supported. I would love to see them supported, because with all cheap and easy methods reported to do amazing things, I would like it to be true. It not being supported, but still pushed, causes all kinds of problems for the hobby for decades because these ideas never go away because they are easy and sexy. People still think the Eco Aqualizer, Marc Weiss products, and ginger are all effective things to do in a reef tank which ends up costing people money and animals lives.
They all start with 'its cheap, so what's the harm?'. The harm is that people think it works when the effects reported occur as often without the product or method, which allows people to think it is doing something, which almost always leads to even grander claims and more problems. Homeopathy, crystal healing, ionic bracelets and more offer simple solutions to complex problems for very little money based on claims that don't pan out. Watching reefkeepers go down that road with another product/method is painful for us that have been doing this a long time. My only tactic is to ask for evidence or suggest ways to get evidence. The fact that when I do that I am somehow the bad guy is perplexing, and sometimes my patience wears thin and I try to be abrasive in kind to try to get the attention of others in a particular discussion. This worked with Cruz btw, and since our first discussion the rehetoric that was being spammed across the forum and social media has dialed back and he and I have had a productive discussion about why observations are not great evidence for grand claims.
So we have this thread, in the Reef Aquarium Discussion forum, not a specific "Positive talk of Nanobubble only" forum, which is supposed to allow for discussion. My post about evidence from a simple side by side growth trial would give some evidence that bubbling is beneficial rather than just not harmful. There are a million things you can add to a reef that aren't harmful, but there is no point if they aren't doing anything good. It seems bubbling raises DO (though no one seems to have actually done the test), raises pH, but most of the other claims don't really have much support other than "I think it looks better"(and can be achieved by other means). I would love bubbling to be supported, as it would make the next 30 years much easier.
Ok, back to trying to convince someone that because the white spots went away doesn't mean that ginger cured the ich - large numbers of people think it does, but that doesn't make it true.
Happy reefing.
