Microbacter 7 with Neophos + NeoNitro

[ssagar89]

Hi Everyone,
I have been battling Dinos in my tank. I plan to increase my nutrients in my tank. I have Neophos and Neonitro. Brightwell recommends adding Microbacter7 with these products. Why do they recommend Micorbacter7 in conjunction? Can I still not add MB7 and have the same results ?
Thanks

 

[Fish Think Pink]

Hi Everyone,
I have been battling Dinos in my tank. I plan to increase my nutrients in my tank. I have Neophos and Neonitro. Brightwell recommends adding Microbacter7 with these products. Why do they recommend Micorbacter7 in conjunction? Can I still not add MB7 and have the same results ?
Thanks

what are your phosphate and nitrate numbers? Zero? if so then that's why

 

[ssagar89]

what are your phosphate and nitrate numbers? Zero? if so then that's why

Yes 0

 

[Fish Think Pink]

Yes 0

Need to get your numbers higher than 0 nitrates and 0 phosphates...

I'm an 'overfeeder' but admitting is first step ... right? lol ... can't imagine numbers that low as I struggle to get my numbers down...

 

[ssagar89]

Need to get your numbers higher than 0 nitrates and 0 phosphates...

I'm an 'overfeeder' but admitting is first step ... right? lol ... can't imagine numbers that low as I struggle to get my numbers down...

After retrospecting my methods, I have some learning from why I got dinos
1. Less bio load. I have just 1 fish which can’t consume too much food. Hence producing waste is difficult
2. Not feeding everyday. I fed every other day but that contributed to less nutrients
3. Weekly water changes routine. Thought weekly water changes are important without assessing the nutrient level which resulted in 0 nutrients. It’s better to first maintain a certain nutrient level before doing a WC
4. Recently added Xenia coral and Dino exploded like crazy. I think nitrates were consumed pretty fast.

 

[Fish Think Pink]

After retrospecting my methods, I have some learning from why I got dinos
1. Less bio load. I have just 1 fish which can’t consume too much food. Hence producing waste is difficult
2. Not feeding everyday. I fed every other day but that contributed to less nutrients
3. Weekly water changes routine. Thought weekly water changes are important without assessing the nutrient level which resulted in 0 nutrients. It’s better to first maintain a certain nutrient level before doing a WC
4. Recently added Xenia coral and Dino exploded like crazy. I think nitrates were consumed pretty fast.

Is there only 1 fish & 1 Xenia in whole tank? No corals or anything else alive (but dinos)?

IF so, then Neophos and Neonitro...

FYI I spot feed with long thin squirter all my corals 1x daily either Red Sea AB+ or Reef Nutition Phyto Feast (or mix those together... and sometimes I add in Oyster Feast which fish will try to steal eggs)

FYI 2: I've heard Xenia do not need fed (photosynthetic only) but mine are growing crazy and attribute that to feeding. IMO their pulsing seems enhanced filter feeding (so I feed a puff when everything else gets direct puff from squirter)

 

[Fish Think Pink]

After retrospecting my methods, I have some learning from why I got dinos
1. Less bio load. I have just 1 fish which can’t consume too much food. Hence producing waste is difficult
2. Not feeding everyday. I fed every other day but that contributed to less nutrients
3. Weekly water changes routine. Thought weekly water changes are important without assessing the nutrient level which resulted in 0 nutrients. It’s better to first maintain a certain nutrient level before doing a WC
4. Recently added Xenia coral and Dino exploded like crazy. I think nitrates were consumed pretty fast.

For my QT where I've got red ogo macroalgae only growing... I'm ordering Neophos

 

[ssagar89]

For my QT where I've got red ogo macroalgae only growing... I'm ordering Neophos

No I have many other corals including LPS and soft corals. Gsp has gotten irritated since the Dino outbreak. Xenia seems to have died and zoas have closed up. I have turned off reds, green and cool whites in my tank. Hopefully the dinos go away.

 

[Fish Think Pink]

No I have many other corals including LPS and soft corals. Gsp has gotten irritated since the Dino outbreak. Xenia seems to have died and zoas have closed up. I have turned off reds, green and cool whites in my tank. Hopefully the dinos go away.

Maybe you've already seen this thread:

Dinoflagellates – Are You Tired Of Battling Altogether?

I don't know what percentage of folks had luck battling dinos with any of the methods in the old Dino thread but it's obviously a very low percentage, so I'd like refresh folks on the natural alternatives and lay out three areas of info: some of the factors that contribute to a dino outbreak...

www.reef2reef.com

and end game:

Dinoflagellates – Are You Tired Of Battling Altogether?

Sorry they came back :( :( :( – do you know what happened? Yes. Its the same nutrient consuming crap I had before. It killed off 70% of my clean up crew the first time. What happened was after the defeat, hair algae and cyano took over. I decided to get another turbo snail and 6 hermits. The...

www.reef2reef.com

Simplifing it, get your phosphates and nitrates off zero. Don't change anything in your tank - keep everything as stable as possible. Consider UV. Consider refugium with macroalgae and consider reef herbivores.