Microscrubbing... I'm Ready to Try It!!!

[Reefer1978]

I will try to regurgitate some information. The wooden air stones don't produce more nano bubbles with more air volume flowing through them. Nano bubble production is based off of pressure. The needle valve allows you to open up the air pump to increase pressure, but then reduce flow via the needle valve. It can be done without the needle valve, but with it is better.

This does not compute in my head. It should be more pressurized before the needle valve, but not after, thus not through the air stone. To me it seems less air through the air stores gives smaller bubbles, so any airline needle valve (the cheapo $1 ones) should do the same trick?

Question for the guys who have done this. I am testing with an extra skimmer pump I have before I buy more components. My overflow is only on one side of the tank. How to get bubbles everywhere?

 

[john.m.cole3]

This does not compute in my head. It should be more pressurized before the needle valve, but not after, thus not through the air stone. To me it seems less air through the air stores gives smaller bubbles, so any airline needle valve (the cheapo $1 ones) should do the same trick?

Question for the guys who have done this. I am testing with an extra skimmer pump I have before I buy more components. My overflow is only on one side of the tank. How to get bubbles everywhere?

I also have a single sided return. The micro/nano bubbles will drop and swirl around in the tank for 3-4 minutes. Your powerheads will get them across the tank and everywhere they need to go. The higher pressure through the stone forces the air through the smaller pore network of the limewood stone. The pump increases pressure where the valve limits volume. this is the way I understand it, but I could be wrong. I would try the cheapo ones, sure. My concern would be the longevity of the cheaper valves vs. the more expensive ones.

 

[Reefer1978]

I also have a single sided return. The micro/nano bubbles will drop and swirl around in the tank for 3-4 minutes. Your powerheads will get them across the tank and everywhere they need to go. The higher pressure through the stone forces the air through the smaller pore network of the limewood stone. The pump increases pressure where the valve limits volume. this is the way I understand it, but I could be wrong. I would try the cheapo ones, sure. My concern would be the longevity of the cheaper valves vs. the more expensive ones.

Thanks for the explanation.

 

[john.m.cole3]

Thanks for the explanation.

You are very welcome. Are you going to try it out?

 

[Reefer1978]

I have a skimmer pump running 4 hours a night already. Just want to simplify it

 

[john.m.cole3]

I have a skimmer pump running 4 hours a night already. Just want to simplify it

Very cool. what are your goals with running the bubbles? I'm very interested in hearing your results.

 

[Reefer1978]

Very cool. what are your goals with running the bubbles? I'm very interested in hearing your results.

One of the many things I am testing in trying to eradicate Ostreopsis Dinoflagelates. So far it's been running for a week and I am not seeing any impact. I am super happy with the stability to PH, so that's a plus.

 

[SchnitzelReef]

What's the trick to get the stones to sit at the bottom of the sump? These guys wanna float everywhere.

 

[hawkinsrgk]

What's the trick to get the stones to sit at the bottom of the sump? These guys wanna float everywhere.

I haven't set mine up yet, but I am sure somebody will chime in. What I plan to do is connect the stones to a 1/2 pvc T fitting and then brace that against some eggcrate or the pump if it were internal. Will post a pic of it this weekend when I set mine up

 

[john.m.cole3]

You can put the stone between the baffles of the last section, under the last baffle, or put a piece of rubble on top of it. Someone else suggested using a section of hard air tubing to place it better.

 

[Lonny]

I've read most of this thread and it's a great read. I must have missed it but is this a method of removing detritus?
I hate asking because it must have been stated. If so I'm so in!! It would be great to eliminate my carbon reactor! Less electricity, heat, money!

 

[john.m.cole3]

I've read most of this thread and it's a great read. I must have missed it but is this a method of removing detritus?
I hate asking because it must have been stated. If so I'm so in!! It would be great to eliminate my carbon reactor! Less electricity, heat, money!

Hi Lonny, welcome aboard. Yes, detritus and organics removal is one of the immediate results I have noticed. Improved water clarity will probably be the first thing you see. Increased skimmer production and a more stable ph are benefits also. Long term benefits include decreased algae, better polyp extension, and improved growth rates of your corals. I feel confident that if you removed your carbon reactor and implemented microscrubbing, you would be ok if not better. I hope your tank will thrive and your corals grow out of the water!

 

[john.m.cole3]

 

[Lonny]

Hey man, thanks for answering so fast! It makes sense and it's cheap and natural! I just ordered the wood air stones. Thanks for doing this! You've put a lot of time and effort into this. And yes it's a recipe worth passing on lol!!!
Plus if it gets me one step closer to diesels success all the better!

 

[john.m.cole3]

One of the many things I am testing in trying to eradicate Ostreopsis Dinoflagelates. So far it's been running for a week and I am not seeing any impact. I am super happy with the stability to PH, so that's a plus.

here ya go

One of the many things I am testing in trying to eradicate Ostreopsis Dinoflagelates. So far it's been running for a week and I am not seeing any impact. I am super happy with the stability to PH, so that's a plus.

Here ya go

 

[john.m.cole3]

Hey man, thanks for answering so fast! It makes sense and it's cheap and natural! I just ordered the wood air stones. Thanks for doing this! You've put a lot of time and effort into this. And yes it's a recipe worth passing on lol!!!
Plus if it gets me one step closer to diesels success all the better!

Not a problem my friend. Please post pics if you think about it. at a minimum, I'd really like to hear what you see changing in your tank. we're growing our reefing community and making it easier and more fun to get good results from all of our hard work. take care!

 

[Lonny]

Not a problem my friend. Please post pics if you think about it. at a minimum, I'd really like to hear what you see changing in your tank. we're growing our reefing community and making it easier and more fun to get good results from all of our hard work. take care!

I will [emoji6] you too

 

[Reefer1978]

here ya go

Here ya go

Hey John. Yep I saw this a while ago, this is exactly what gave me the initial idea to try it. Going to see if it works on Ostreopsis.

 

[hawkinsrgk]

Got it setup tonight. I think it's needs to be adjusted a little, but starting the three day 24/7

 

[hawkinsrgk]

The pics didn't show the bubbles as well as I hoped