Mobius is Terrible
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JGT
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Save it. Go into Edit and then select the template button to the right of the Schedule %. Select Save template and give it a name. Then you can play around with other templates, but ultimately go back to the one you saved. You would enter the sunrise/sunset and the choose it from the user templates.
The app does have a feature to import other peoples schedules. Thats what export and import are for.
To export, you go to your schedule and hit the generic export button in the top right.
to import you head to templates and scroll right to USER. Applies to both pumps and lights.
As a programmer myself I’m just curious what you’d change UI wise. I think it’s decent and don’t know what I’d change personally . I find it easy to use and self explanatory where stuff is. I find the majority of issues are just lack of understanding. Just like the export/import thing. You say it’s not there but it is there. Not a dig, just saying.
The presets on the Home Screen are just pointless ways to show you it can do stuff to be fair. Hit edit and delete them to remove them. That’s what I did. But they are absolutely useful when you create custom ones/scenes, to completely shut down the pumps for example, or set off a nutrient transport mode temporarily.
Just curious - I create apps for a living and see no real issues with this one UI wise. I admit I’ve never had any issues with my devices themselves or others I’ve helped with so I can’t comment on that side of things. The app itself. Can’t say what I’d change if I could.
To export, you go to your schedule and hit the generic export button in the top right.
to import you head to templates and scroll right to USER. Applies to both pumps and lights.
As a programmer myself I’m just curious what you’d change UI wise. I think it’s decent and don’t know what I’d change personally . I find it easy to use and self explanatory where stuff is. I find the majority of issues are just lack of understanding. Just like the export/import thing. You say it’s not there but it is there. Not a dig, just saying.
The presets on the Home Screen are just pointless ways to show you it can do stuff to be fair. Hit edit and delete them to remove them. That’s what I did. But they are absolutely useful when you create custom ones/scenes, to completely shut down the pumps for example, or set off a nutrient transport mode temporarily.
Just curious - I create apps for a living and see no real issues with this one UI wise. I admit I’ve never had any issues with my devices themselves or others I’ve helped with so I can’t comment on that side of things. The app itself. Can’t say what I’d change if I could.
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I have a few complaints (all with regards to iOS - can’t speak to Android etc.):
With regards to the templates, it’s annoying that you need to enter the sunrise and sunset time every single time. One might want to capture all of the settings including sunrise/sunset (vs. needing to recall the time). Would be more ideal to have the ability to capture the lighting scenario fully.
With regards to the templates - if there is some way to delete user generated templates it is super non-obvious. I can’t seem to figure out how to remove locally saved templates.
There is a “Save” button - but any changes are instantly “saved” without any clear ability to revert, I’m not clear what “save” actually does - would be great to have an “undo” feature or ability to quickly revert any changes (other than regenerating from a template) since it’s super easy to accidentally shift one of the settings. Whenever, I’m poking around to check settings I find myself accidentally changing one thing or another.
Additionally, there is no way to zoom in on the timeline - it is really cumbersome to edit/move points on the timeline in close proximity. The pop up will overlap neighboring points if they are close together (say within 1.5 hrs).
Overall the program gets the job done, but toggling between settings could be made much easier (not having to rebuild from a template every time) and the interface for adjusting the time and adjusting the lighting settings could be much easier to work with.
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Karen00
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Color cycle? Do you mean it cycles through the various colors? If so that's quite hokey. That's something they do with the lights on kids' aquariums, not reef lighting.
100% agree with all points you make.
I do still see why some choices were made though - Logically anyway.
Template sunrise/sunset times for example.
Lets say a template you really want had a sunrise of 9am but you wanted it to be 11am. If when you imported it, it only brought across the user defined sunrise time of 9am you would then need to physically edit every single point to add 2 hours on to each one for the schedule to work without overlapping. With so many devices in so many different locations around the world in different timezones i imagine sunrise/sunset times will be extremely different between a lot of users.
Them forcing you to choose a sunrise time means it automatically adjusts all other points for you on import. Its the only way that logically works otherwise you would have much more work adjusting multiple points rather than just a start/end time beforehand.
But then again they could just give you the choice too.
To delete imported templates you can go to the FILES app on your device. This is just where the app stores those files i believe, it needs a location and thats the generic location 99% of apps use. This is an iOS thing rather than the app itself although there may be another way to do it in app but ive not tried. Could well be a long press or swipe on the individual template. Will look when i can out of interest.
Completely understand with the save button. When things are instantly saved it seems a bit silly to have it. An undo feature would be great too. Too many times have i made a change and wanted to revert it then forgetting what i had done.
Zoom would also be a great feature - Or at least a way to just swipe between points rather than trying to click - Much like the Vortech schedules, there is an UP arrow and a DOWN arrow that you click to choose your next point rather than having to choose a tiny "block".
I do still think that those are all just "Would loves" rather than "they are needed or the app is junk" as most make out though. It functions well enough that i have no issues with it other than things id like to see improved. I use a lot of their gear, so i do "shake" my device in Mobius to report any bugs/improvements id like so hopefully they take note.
MikeTheNewbie
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I thought G5 radions only had Bluetooth hardware, not WiFi.
Are you saying that there is way to connect Ecotech Radion G5 lights to the local WiFi and then control them via an app or do you need to get a separate box (bridge between WiFi and Bluetooth mobius)?
flashsmith
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I don't know but if I had to worry about a light on one of my tanks when I stepped out or had to participate in life I would probably choose another hobby. I feel the same way about all automation. If you need to do it because of lack of time or laziness it's not for you. That's the whole point of keeping tanks to be hands on. The day I don't have 10 minutes to dose my 3 tanks is the day I find something else to waste money on. Mobius works as intended for me...
Yes, exactly that.
The Mobius chip you have inside the G5 and any other device on Mobius is Bluetooth & wifi. However wifi is disabled for anyone not on the beta. Its in beta phase and will be available to everyone soon as far as we all know.
Theres a "ReefDudes" youtube video with Ecotech going into depth about wifi and devices if you want to have a butch.
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If you have two radions and want to run just one of them at a much lower intensity to acclimate a new coral, how would you go about doing that on Mobius?
Create two seperate tanks and add one light to one and the other light to the other, you then get seperate control of each. Although id personally just put the whole tank on acclimation mode (corals are more than capable of dealing with less light for a short period of time from intense lighting - No different than when its shipped with no light) - Or better still id just have the coral in a more shaded area and slowly move it out without changing the light schedule but thats personal preference.
For what it’s worth - to delete saved templates that you have saved yourself is done the same way as it is to delete imported ones too.
Go to the screen that allows you to choose schedules - under USER - then long press the schedule you want to remove. Screenshot as an example.
WWC are both imported from the net. Waterbox peninsula is my own created custom schedule and saved.
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I see. Unfortunately I can't even save any changes I make and get a "Bluetooth Connection Fail" error message when I try.
I am still using Reeflink and thought that was from the 1990 interface wise, sounds as this new Mobius is worse.
Thought I was running the schedule I had setup for a few weeks, to find I wasn’t, Setting up the schedule and then pressing the schedule button apparently wasn’t enough, obviously that would have been too easy.
Kessil not much better with their controller TBH.
Thought I was running the schedule I had setup for a few weeks, to find I wasn’t, Setting up the schedule and then pressing the schedule button apparently wasn’t enough, obviously that would have been too easy.
Kessil not much better with their controller TBH.
MikeTheNewbie
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Yeah, mine keeps doing the same over and over. I frequently need to unplug my radions and restart the tablet to make them work. AI Primes don't give me such a hard time. That's why I'm very interested in this WiFi alternative. Hopefully it will make the app more responsive and prevent the frequent connection errors.
