Month old tank, no nitate, no nitrite?

[Cole063015]

Hello, new heare , new 75g tank 20lb live sand 20lb dry sand, 40lb dry rock, 10lb live seeded rock from lfs, all 75g supposedly ocean water from petco, the box kind. Two clowns, two goby, bonded pair, test every week for everything 0's across the board everytime. Slight diatombloom across substrate but still no measurable anything. So my question is did it cycle, or does not need to since the water i used???? I have done 5 g water changes every week and use a rodi system. I fell like something is not right???

 

[PeterC99]

First, Welcome to R2R!

Second, can you give us some history of what you’ve been testing and the results?

 

[tc3driver]

Also what tests you are using... It sounds like you did a fish in cycle?

Also Nitrite not really super important unless you are in the 100s of parts per million.

My first guess (especially with nitrate, and assuming you are using API test kits) is that the instructions aren't being followed. That API nitrate test doesn't work unless you are following the instructions to an absolute 'T'.

 

[Jekyl]

Even with the seeded rock you should be seeing nitrate. Especially with 4 fish already. What tests? I would take a water sample to your LFS and have them test it.

 

[brandon429]

You are cycled or all that won't make 48 hours. Welcome to skip cycling.

 

[brandon429]

Ten pounds of live rock in a high flow area will run twice your bioload. Added to our tenth page of skip cycle examples

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[brandon429]

People make fun of me for grandstanding skip cycles but how else are we going to permanently etch it into written accepted reef procedure for buyers, we do it by repetition using live examples. Over and over until I'm geriatric. It's important.


This reefer can now instantly move to disease preps consideration, and away from cycling.

My apologies bottle bac sellers: we won't be buying your reinforcements here today free science arrived first.

So, velvet

 

[Jekyl]

People make fun of me for grandstanding skip cycles but how else are we going to permanently etch it into written accepted reef procedure for buyers, we do it by repetition using live examples. Over and over until I'm geriatric. It's important.


This reefer can now instantly move to disease preps consideration, and away from cycling.

My apologies bottle bac sellers: we won't be buying your reinforcements here today free science arrived first.

So, velvet

I think you should dedicate your search to reef safe GSP killers.

 

[brandon429]

briareum? It peels right off man heh

 

[Jekyl]

briareum? It peels right off man heh

I gave it the Ole college try today. Rock is too porous.

 

[Azedenkae]

Hello, new heare , new 75g tank 20lb live sand 20lb dry sand, 40lb dry rock, 10lb live seeded rock from lfs, all 75g supposedly ocean water from petco, the box kind. Two clowns, two goby, bonded pair, test every week for everything 0's across the board everytime. Slight diatombloom across substrate but still no measurable anything. So my question is did it cycle, or does not need to since the water i used???? I have done 5 g water changes every week and use a rodi system. I fell like something is not right???

Hi there.

From what I can see, it may not be too surprising. While you'd eventually want the rest of your dry rock to be established with nitrifying microbes, there is a large chance that the 10lb of live seeded rock is handling all the ammonia and nitrite produced by your four fish already, given their bioload is not *too* much.

Only curiosity is nitrate. Are there algae growing anywhere? Any corals or anything else that might be uptaking nitrates? Or any methods of nitrate removal at the moment? I mean the sand might be allowing for significant anaerobic denitrification, but somehow I kinda doubt it.

 

[brandon429]

What about cryo freeze it with an inverted air can (outside tank)

im sorry for the ants I did this to in 1993 i was a dumb kid. In 1983 it was elmers glue dots all over the driveway.

 

[Cole063015]

Hi there.

From what I can see, it may not be too surprising. While you'd eventually want the rest of your dry rock to be established with nitrifying microbes, there is a large chance that the 10lb of live seeded rock is handling all the ammonia and nitrite produced by your four fish already, given their bioload is not *too* much.

Only curiosity is nitrate. Are there algae growing anywhere? Any corals or anything else that might be uptaking nitrates? Or any methods of nitrate removal at the moment? I mean the sand might be allowing for significant anaerobic denitrification, but somehow I kinda doubt it.

The only algae is on the original live rock, I did use quick start nitpicking stuff, also running a fluval 407, with bio balls , carbon. Also two 1k gph powerheads turned to 50% power 6s pulse. I tested again yesterday still nothing. Ph did go down a bit

 

[Cole063015]