Monthly fee to use lights!!!?!?!

[TheHarold]

If you refuse the service, but the controller is required to operate lights, you may have the option to continue as is without any future updates. I can't imagine they will render existing customer's lights useless without it.

Let's ask.. Contact: [email protected]

 

[OutColdCRNA]

Let's ask.. Contact: [email protected]

Already sent an email. Waiting for response.

 

[piranhaman00]

I’m sure this will come for all LED people eventually.

I can’t believe that Neptune doesn’t charge yet for fusion

 

[reef_1]

I don't like going from a perpetual type of license to a cloud-based monthly fee. I think there should be a grandfathered exception for existing users.

They cant exclude existing users, cause there is not gonna be new users either, so who they will get the money from.

Either way I hope that legally they can't render a unit unusuable which had a fixed price in the past unless users start paying, there is no technical reason why application needs to use a server either.

If they do this I guess they can close the company as well, no one will buy any subscription lights in the next decades - especially now that some of the chinese lights are quite good as well.

 

[reef_1]

I’m sure this will come for all LED people eventually.

I highly doubt, putting some cree leds on a circuit is neither complex or patented stuff.

 

[Lost in the Sauce]

That is complete Garbage

 

[SteveMM62Reef]

That’s why I keep things simple. 21LEDUSA ReefBar Pro and ReefBars, with the SunSetter Control. No WiFi, no Bluetooth. Just a simple remote with a coin battery in it. Yes, the Control has Ramped Sunrise and Sunset. Will do cloudy day, Timed Moon. Will even do Thunderstorms. Has two Channels. Remembers it’s settings and time of day during power failures, and survived a drop to 60 volts. Plus I’ve dropped the Fixture into the Aquarium while powered up. No water entered the fixture. Still works over a year later.

 

[amazongb]

Reminds me of when I bought a Skydrop WiFi sprinker controller. After about 3 years of use, I got a notification that they were going to charge monthly for the app. Users revolted and the company went out of business, basically bricking my controller.

 

[Lbrdsoxfan]

I’m sure this will come for all LED people eventually.

I can’t believe that Neptune doesn’t charge yet for fusion

Ssshhhh... Don't give them ideas. Bertram is watching/listening... If hydros wasn't a valid threat to them, they prolly would be.

 

[Lbrdsoxfan]

That is complete Garbage

Serious, I can deal with obsolescence, and online ish... but man you gotta pay or your lights are effectively bricked. That sucks.

 

[Kellie in CA]

This probably has something to do with the fact that NanoBox has been out of business for years.
I had to stop using my lights because there was no longer any support.
Bluefish kind of got stuck holding the bag on this one.

 

[Lost in the Sauce]

Serious, I can deal with obsolescence, and online ish... but man you gotta pay or your lights are effectively bricked. That sucks.

I run pretty much all red Sea lamps and wavemakers. If red sea pulled this, I would dump All of them at a loss and replace them with a company who doesn't think it's ok to change the game in the fourth inning.

 

[OutColdCRNA]

Response from bluefish,


Yes, I did send this email. Unfortunately, in order to continue providing the support and infrastructure for Bluefish, the only option is to start charging for the app. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.

Spencer


I have replied with a second that asked if I will lose all functionality unless paid for.

 

[reefiniteasy]

Response from bluefish,


Yes, I did send this email. Unfortunately, in order to continue providing the support and infrastructure for Bluefish, the only option is to start charging for the app. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.

Spencer


I have replied with a second that asked if I will lose all functionality unless paid for.

Time to shop for a new light. They just put themselves out of business. What tank do you have? A Maxspect Jump or Jump Blue is inexpensive and fantastic. So many good lights out there right now.

 

[OutColdCRNA]

Second response regarding functionality.


Devices not connected to a subscription will continue to run on your set schedule. A subsciption will be required for app access and weather simulation.

Spencer

 

[OutColdCRNA]

I feel like Clark griswold getting a subscription to the jelly of the month club.

 

[reefiniteasy]

Second response regarding functionality.


Devices not connected to a subscription will continue to run on your set schedule. A subsciption will be required for app access and weather simulation.

Spencer

So basically the light is bricked and you can’t adjust anything. Time for a new light.

 

[Lost in the Sauce]

Second response regarding functionality.


Devices not connected to a subscription will continue to run on your set schedule. A subsciption will be required for app access and weather simulation.

Spencer

In other words " No, you'll be able to keep your same settings, UNLESS you turn them off, unplug them, need to update your schedule and so on. Then you're screwed. Give me more money"

 

[Lbrdsoxfan]

I'd be looking at some noops or smat farm, or go whole hog with some radions, Kessils, hydras, etc.... Sucks op... After reading up on them, they were the ticket back when you bought them and weren't cheap!

 

[OutColdCRNA]

In other words " No, you'll be able to keep your same settings, UNLESS you turn them off, unplug them, need to update your schedule and so on. Then you're screwed. Give me more money"

Exactly right! This is total garbage! And whose to say that 2.99 is enough and it goes up to $50 a month. He is in total control.