Moonshiners vs Triton

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I have a 125 currently running. I'm looking into one of these methods. I wanna know your experience on these. How costly is it. Does it get really costly with time or once running it's pretty cheap? Is it a hard method to run? I don't want to kill everything in my tank. What's your experience with this bad or good. Are you happy you've switched or not. What's the difference in corals after running this.
 
i use the reef moonshiner method, and initially it is very costly, as at the first ICP you will find out if you’re deficient in anything or not. any ICP after is just for maintenance as the liquids, other than fluoride, are used up far less. my 50G water volume tank has used up more than 500mL of fluoride within a 8months. andre does an amazing job at laying out the method in a user friendly way, completely free! all you pay for are the elements! and that’s if you even need any!

i started with monthly ICP tests followed by an order of whatever element i was low in until i had all the elements needed. now i send out an ICP bi-monthly as maintenance as my tank continues to grow and mature. there will be a point where i will only do it twice a year or every 3 months.
 
I’ve been doing Reef moonshiners for almost a year. It’s pricey upfront, but not so bad to maintain. I’ve done pretty well with it and am sticking with the program for the foreseeable future.
 
i use the reef moonshiner method, and initially it is very costly, as at the first ICP you will find out if you’re deficient in anything or not. any ICP after is just for maintenance as the liquids, other than fluoride, are used up far less. my 50G water volume tank has used up more than 500mL of fluoride within a 8months. andre does an amazing job at laying out the method in a user friendly way, completely free! all you pay for are the elements! and that’s if you even need any!

i started with monthly ICP tests followed by an order of whatever element i was low in until i had all the elements needed. now i send out an ICP bi-monthly as maintenance as my tank continues to grow and mature. there will be a point where i will only do it twice a year or every 3 months.
Post tank please
 
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i use the reef moonshiner method, and initially it is very costly, as at the first ICP you will find out if you’re deficient in anything or not. any ICP after is just for maintenance as the liquids, other than fluoride, are used up far less. my 50G water volume tank has used up more than 500mL of fluoride within a 8months. andre does an amazing job at laying out the method in a user friendly way, completely free! all you pay for are the elements! and that’s if you even need any!

i started with monthly ICP tests followed by an order of whatever element i was low in until i had all the elements needed. now i send out an ICP bi-monthly as maintenance as my tank continues to grow and mature. there will be a point where i will only do it twice a year or every 3 months.
u use any ICP test or is there something for this specific method
 
Post tank please
the reef moonshiner method uses the ATI-ICP, triton uses triton
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I need to do a ICP test. I'm having issues keeping sps and all big partners flow and par are good so someone is either in the water maybe something in my home or something isn't in my water that should be there. Only sps are affected
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u use any ICP test or is there something for this specific method
There are three tests through Moonshiner's but you can use any ICP test. Each brand has one or two elements the others don't. If you're looking to apply this method to avoid water changes then you should definitely go the with RM test. If you're seriously interested, go the the website and download the FREE handbook and dosing tool - Yes, FREE. In order to use up your remaining other-brand elements, you'll need to do some math to come to the correct recommended dose.
I'd love to hear from some Triton users though. I know BRS loved on their 160 it but eventually went away from it...
 
My newest Tank is 5 years old and I have around 25 different types of Acropora. Out of those I have 2 that won't color up, still growth but no color. March of this year I started the Moonshiners. Honestly I see no difference, I still have the same 2 that wan't color.
 
Yeah, I never got the colors either. My understanding is the newest test offered, reads some trace elements at a much lower reading. Therefore some of the dailies, or what not, might actually need to be dosed slightly higher than the 0.08ml a day or whatever he numbers are. I don’t know if it’s that simple, but it’s similar to that. I think.

corey
 
What kind of colors are you all getting with your sps on the RM program?

corey
I'm about a month in using my recent ATI tests and the daily RM drops. I'm doing this on my two established 55 gallon tanks as well as my 150 that is 6 months old. I have not battled growth at all in the past. One millie in the 150 has gone absolutely haywire on coloration (in a great way) while the rest in that tank seem to be normal and happy. Only one species of zoa in a 55 have started showing bright gold and purple. Last, I had a dark green shaggy "volunteer" millie that was growing along and now has popped 5 new branches/heads and is now starting to change color showing some peach. This may turn out to be a Walt Disney. Who knows?
For me, I have definitely seen the results in each tank. Just not in every single coral. Maybe I've just been blessed with good looking ones to begin with?!
 
Oh my tank grows……I have taken some frags and in 14 months they are close to a foot across. They grow. but all the colors some people speak of, no luck in my tank.
thad doesnt mean it doesn’t work, just that I don’t have the colors. That’s all


corey
 
I had great colors and growth before I started. I was just hoping to get the two stubborn ones to color up and maybe improve the already great colors I had I just haven't seen any change.
 
Coral color is a very complex issue with chemistry only being one of many puzzle pieces. Folks espousing one chemical method or another may be glossing over many other things. Lighting, flow, nutrients, coral genetics, feeding, etc.
 
There are three tests through Moonshiner's but you can use any ICP test. Each brand has one or two elements the others don't. If you're looking to apply this method to avoid water changes then you should definitely go the with RM test. If you're seriously interested, go the the website and download the FREE handbook and dosing tool - Yes, FREE. In order to use up your remaining other-brand elements, you'll need to do some math to come to the correct recommended dose.
I'd love to hear from some Triton users though. I know BRS loved on their 160 it but eventually went away from it...
I jumped on board Triton and ICP testing for my 125 gal mixed reef tank as soon as it came out. Sound like the magic elixir. However due to the ICP expense I was only doing quarterly testing. The corrective doses were expensive and I never saw any significant improvements. For the last year I have been using Tropic Marin's dry powder All for Reef. Less expensive and more convenient but not a panacea and there still seems to be considerable deviation for the trace elements based on my tanks specfiic needs. I have recently come across the Moonshiners Method and am getting ready to embark on the approach. After reading the MM Handbook there are a few points of interest that may point to possible improvements. Some of the daily and broader corrective doses and targets seem to be slightly above natural seawater. I have continually seen iron and other deficiencies in my tank over time with All for Reef despite maintaining a steady dKh of 8.0-8.5. Yes I corrected the deficiencies each time and then even went proactive with partial doses each month of the commonly depleted elements. More effort but still no great improvement. Given my experience with both Triton and Tropic Marin's All for Reef, I can see the potential for the MM approach to provide a more stable and optimized trace element profile in my tank. What strikes me as promising is that with MM you are truly generating a tank specific trace elements dosing profile. I find this as much more credible approach vs a one size fits all. A bit more effort but anticipate that with a bit of experience, it could be efficient to do the "daily dosing". Will keep the forum posted on what I learn be it good or bad.
 
I jumped on board Triton and ICP testing for my 125 gal mixed reef tank as soon as it came out. Sound like the magic elixir. However due to the ICP expense I was only doing quarterly testing. The corrective doses were expensive and I never saw any significant improvements. For the last year I have been using Tropic Marin's dry powder All for Reef. Less expensive and more convenient but not a panacea and there still seems to be considerable deviation for the trace elements based on my tanks specfiic needs. I have recently come across the Moonshiners Method and am getting ready to embark on the approach. After reading the MM Handbook there are a few points of interest that may point to possible improvements. Some of the daily and broader corrective doses and targets seem to be slightly above natural seawater. I have continually seen iron and other deficiencies in my tank over time with All for Reef despite maintaining a steady dKh of 8.0-8.5. Yes I corrected the deficiencies each time and then even went proactive with partial doses each month of the commonly depleted elements. More effort but still no great improvement. Given my experience with both Triton and Tropic Marin's All for Reef, I can see the potential for the MM approach to provide a more stable and optimized trace element profile in my tank. What strikes me as promising is that with MM you are truly generating a tank specific trace elements dosing profile. I find this as much more credible approach vs a one size fits all. A bit more effort but anticipate that with a bit of experience, it could be efficient to do the "daily dosing". Will keep the forum posted on what I learn be it good or bad.
I been on the mm for a while now. I had many issues trying to get acros to grow even when stable. The minute I put mm in my tank within a week I seen color coming in and then growth. I will never go back to anything else. I still have yet done any icp after 3 months. I’ll do my first icp soon but I won’t be doing them monthly. As long as tanks doing great I don’t need every single thing in the green everyday.
 
Quick update for the forum on my transition to the Reef Moonshiners method. I started the method about 2 months ago and have seen a marked improvement in my corals in both color and growth. Probably the biggest difference I have seen over 2 ICP cycles is that my "All for Reef" approach just wasn't well matched to my tanks and inhabitants specific needs/consumption of key elements. In both ICP cycles I have had to make corrective dosages across a lot of elements (lower amounts the second time around) to get my tank back in line with Reef Moonshiners specs. At the same time I have been doing daily dosing for almost 9 elements. I anticipate that in the next few ICP cycles I will get my tank (mixed reef) balanced and get to a modest group of "daily elements". Following the method has also resulted in my watching nitrate, phos, alk, Ca and Mg much more frequently all of which have benefitted my tank. My best success story is with a golden eye chalice that was on death's door step. The chalice is about 2.5" in diameter and only had a few "golden eyes" that were fading and the entire chalice skeleton was bleached. In just under 2 months the chalice is growing, a beautiful burgundy with glowing golden eyes. I am also using Vitamin-X and Liquid Mud. So more moonshine for me.
 

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