Most beginner tanks setup specs and price

He said with the live sand and all the bacteria in the nutri seawater plus I'll ad some bacteria it will cycle in days
 
He said with the live sand and all the bacteria in the nutri seawater plus I'll ad some bacteria it will cycle in days

This is true, but I hope he also told you that picos are not the easiest of tanks to keep, you will be surprised at just how little evaporation will fluctuate your salinity. Daily topoff is a must, so leaving the tank for more than a day is not optional. Do not get discouraged if you struggle with it. It honestly only gets easier from there.
 
This is true, but I hope he also told you that picos are not the easiest of tanks to keep, you will be surprised at just how little evaporation will fluctuate your salinity. Daily topoff is a must, so leaving the tank for more than a day is not optional. Do not get discouraged if you struggle with it. It honestly only gets easier from there.

Yah fully aware I'm gonna keep extra top off water in bind and extra nutri sea water
 
This is true, but I hope he also told you that picos are not the easiest of tanks to keep, you will be surprised at just how little evaporation will fluctuate your salinity. Daily topoff is a must, so leaving the tank for more than a day is not optional. Do not get discouraged if you struggle with it. It honestly only gets easier from there.

Would you happen to know a get ato system that will not break the bank and comes with everything I need it like 60$
 
Would you happen to know a get ato system that will not break the bank and comes with everything I need it like 60$

I would honestly keep looking in the FS threads here or on your local club. Gonna be hard to get one new for that. Manual top off will work for softies and fish. Just have to be diligent.
 
I would honestly keep looking in the FS threads here or on your local club. Gonna be hard to get one new for that. Manual top off will work for softies and fish. Just have to be diligent.
Yah thanks a ato is bound to pop up sometime on hers
 
I thought you were going for 10-29 gallons :o. That'd be a lot easier to start with..(the larger volumes). You should try to at least get a 10 gallon because there's barely any fish that could thrive in a 3 gallon, more like 2 with sand and rock. I guess if you just want a few small inverts, and maybe an easy coral that'd be fine..but I mean most people don't want to stop there. Jmo..oh and by the way, you can get 10 gallons for VERY cheap and you wouldn't need any expensive equipment.
 
I thought you were going for 10-29 gallons :o. That'd be a lot easier to start with..(the larger volumes). You should try to at least get a 10 gallon because there's barely any fish that could thrive in a 3 gallon, more like 2 with sand and rock. I guess if you just want a few small inverts, and maybe an easy coral that'd be fine..but I mean most people don't want to stop there. Jmo..oh and by the way, you can get 10 gallons for VERY cheap and you wouldn't need any expensive equipment.

Yah I have a bigger tank I just wanna start here and move up idk I just kinda would like to do that once I get bored with just inverts I'll get something bigger
 
Always check garage sales. I always see tanks and for some reason, they're hard to get rid of. Never offer full asking price, and if you look hard enough you may even find a full on salt water setup with skimmers, wave makers, expensive lighting, etc. Some people dive into this hobby and get discouraged early when they don't do some research and approach the hobby with some caution. They see a salt water tank, fall in love and spend a fortune, expect it to take care of itself, then get frustrated and give up. Also, eBay is another possibility but the shipping costs might be overwhelming unless you find something local. But I do agree with some of the replies, there's more than meets the eye when it comes to picos, they are not forgiving and may discourage you if you fail. Most people I know who have done picos, started wiyh larger tanks. 20gal is IMO the idea size for a starter.
 
Always check garage sales. I always see tanks and for some reason, they're hard to get rid of. Never offer full asking price, and if you look hard enough you may even find a full on salt water setup with skimmers, wave makers, expensive lighting, etc. Some people dive into this hobby and get discouraged early when they don't do some research and approach the hobby with some caution. They see a salt water tank, fall in love and spend a fortune, expect it to take care of itself, then get frustrated and give up. Also, eBay is another possibility but the shipping costs might be overwhelming unless you find something local. But I do agree with some of the replies, there's more than meets the eye when it comes to picos, they are not forgiving and may discourage you if you fail. Most people I know who have done picos, started wiyh larger tanks. 20gal is IMO the idea size for a starter. Also, ask your lfs if they need part-time help. That's how I started over 35 years ago. You'll probably get employee discounts and gain a ton of knowledge at the same time. And, it's a fun way to earn a few bucks.
 
Pico ≠ beginner, beginner I would honestly go 14g cube system as the smallest even in this size fluctuation in perameters can be a pain, but a Pico is about as hard as it gets to keep stable perameters. Hate to see you discouraged and not join the reefing hobby over a bad choice. In first. Tank!
 
Go bigger! You will be so glad you did! Invest in a RODI if you have a place to set it up... You can use it for years and years ( changing filters of course) and water quality determines our success in this hobby. You will outgrow a 3 gallon tank in 3 weeks
 
Go as big as you can afford on the tank. Stability is a must and especially since you are just getting started. Bulk Reef Supply is a good place to look for a RO/DI unit.
 
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I would wait until petco has their dollar per gallon sell and get at least a 40 gallon breeder tank. You can ask around at the local fish stores about getting it drilled for a overflow and return. You can also try your hand at a diy sump for it. I started with a 3 gallon tank. If you forget one thing your tank can crash and one fish is never enough. My next tank was a 29g that I had drilled and it was a lot easier to keep.
 
I know it's to late but IMO anything smaller than 10-20 gallons for saltwater are more for experienced people. Very hard to maintain steady levels. Top off with fresh water daily. Inverts are very sensitive to salinity and temp swings.
 
Yah I just don't have the money to go so big but I am saving up for a bio cube or a Jbj of some sort and I am looking around on Craigslist. I'll just start with this I have a ato I know this will be hard. And rodi is so expensive! How will I ever be able to get one of those units! Thanks for all the great replies I might just return the pico
 
Yah I just don't have the money to go so big but I am saving up for a bio cube or a Jbj of some sort and I am looking around on Craigslist. I'll just start with this I have a ato I know this will be hard. And rodi is so expensive! How will I ever be able to get one of those units! Thanks for all the great replies I might just return the pico

I know things seem very expensive right now, I started this hobby at 15yrs old and have been in and out since then. I remember how hard it was to make extra cash at that age. Washing cars and mowing lawns and misc. house work, just so I could get that amazing coral at the LFS, or hot new imported fish. Remember that saying "you get what you pay for"? Nothing holds more truth in this hobby.

My honest suggestion here....... I don't know what your schedule is like, but if you do not have time to dedicate to the pico then I would not bother with it. I'm not saying it can't be done..... But like others have suggested you will outgrow it very fast or just get so frustrated that you will give up. Most who setup a pico have other fully independent reef systems and are just looking for a challenge or something they can keep at work. Keep reading and researching while saving up some funds, I wish we had resources like r2r when I was your age ( I'm only 35 but jeez I sound old, lol). Join the local club, you would be surprised and how kind and giving members are...... You might even score a setup for nearly nothing! As for the ro/di and other accessories that seem completely out of reach. Don't worry, there are work arounds. If your LFS is legit they will sell RODI, as well as mixed saltwater. Be smart about it, look at their tanks..... Are they filled with hair algae, cyano, unhealthy livestock or other muck that could be do to water quality? Or are they pristine? There is nothing wrong with testing the water they sell. If it's unacceptable, don't use their water. Get yourself test kits ($20ish). A TDS meter ($10ish). And a refractometer ( look on the FS threads or local clubs). I make my own water and yes it is more convenient and easier incase of emergencies. But I used Lfs water for years on my first couple of setups that were 20-40g in range with success, so it can be done.

That's just my 2 cents. Hope it helps :)
 
I know things seem very expensive right now, I started this hobby at 15yrs old and have been in and out since then. I remember how hard it was to make extra cash at that age. Washing cars and mowing lawns and misc. house work, just so I could get that amazing coral at the LFS, or hot new imported fish. Remember that saying "you get what you pay for"? Nothing holds more truth in this hobby.

My honest suggestion here....... I don't know what your schedule is like, but if you do not have time to dedicate to the pico then I would not bother with it. I'm not saying it can't be done..... But like others have suggested you will outgrow it very fast or just get so frustrated that you will give up. Most who setup a pico have other fully independent reef systems and are just looking for a challenge or something they can keep at work. Keep reading and researching while saving up some funds, I wish we had resources like r2r when I was your age ( I'm only 35 but jeez I sound old, lol). Join the local club, you would be surprised and how kind and giving members are...... You might even score a setup for nearly nothing! As for the ro/di and other accessories that seem completely out of reach. Don't worry, there are work arounds. If your LFS is legit they will sell RODI, as well as mixed saltwater. Be smart about it, look at their tanks..... Are they filled with hair algae, cyano, unhealthy livestock or other muck that could be do to water quality? Or are they pristine? There is nothing wrong with testing the water they sell. If it's unacceptable, don't use their water. Get yourself test kits ($20ish). A TDS meter ($10ish). And a refractometer ( look on the FS threads or local clubs). I make my own water and yes it is more convenient and easier incase of emergencies. But I used Lfs water for years on my first couple of setups that were 20-40g in range with success, so it can be done.

That's just my 2 cents. Hope it helps :)
Agreed 100%, if your located in Ohio let me know I would be happy to donate a small cube to a local up and coming reef enthusiast!
 
You could always get a decent sized tank (at least 20) and throw a good HOB filter on it and keep your bio load small and enjoy that for a while.
You will learn a lot setting that up and it would be minimal investment.
 

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