Mp40’s

[B-ridge]

i have 4 mp40’s on a 240 gallo. Tank that’s 60 long by 36 wide. I have 2 on each side of the tank. It’s a divider tank that you can see from both sides. My question for the people is is it possible to run each pump different from the other? I want each pump to run at a different mode and alternate throughout the day. Changing the flow up throughout the day to different areas of the tank. I know in sync mode they all will run the same. But in anti sync mode they should do the opposite I would think. But if one pump is running at let’s say 100% will it effect the percentages of the other pumps? So confused

 

[Flux Capacitor]

You have a couple options. The first is get the Apex module to control the mp40s. You can set each one to whatever mode you want, at whatever time. This of course requires the Apex system to work.

The other option is very similar, but you would buy the Ecotech Reef Link. It gives you the same control the Apex would, it’s just the company’s own unit. It’s the cheaper options if you don’t have an Apex, I believe $100.

 

[minus9]

Yes, you can run them with individual programs. Just use ecosmart live (with reeflink) and program at will.

 

[B-ridge]

I have my 4 controlled through apex. I was told if I have 1 running at 100% then the other would be off. Is this not true? How would I control each one individually and run whatever flow I want on each one? I would like a random alternating flow

 

[ndrwater]

Each pump is a stand alone unit unless you "sync, anti-sync" etc.
It is definitely possible to have 4 separate programs running.
Just easier to have them create a gyre or whatever random flow if you use the aforementioned Reeflink or WXM with an Apex

 

[B-ridge]

Ok. Maybe I’m wording it wrong. Instead of asking if it’s possible which we know it is how would I do it? I don’t wanna lose flow of other pumps if I have one running on 100%

 

[Sarah24!]

Hello,

First off I don’t have the mp40s but I did beta test them at one point. What your trying to do in your 240 is exactly what I’m doing with my 240 only with the current eflux wave makers. I run the top two at times full stream because it’s most sps up top. On the bottom I run wave motion or aka pulsing wave motion.

Now with the current they each act as a slave within it’s own similar to the mp40. Each current comes with a hub and a remote and led display. Anyway there was no way I could control of the way I wanted. So thinking out side the box, I used four manifold hubs and linked one wave maker to each one and to an led display. Now they all use the same remote so it’s super easy to switch each pump and it tells you which mode your on.

Now I can’t honestly remember if those have manifold hubs or not, but if they do run four of them and daisy link them together. Then your main display should pick up each one as a different unit.

I’m honestly not overly fond of Ecotech live or their reef link. Way to many problems, at least with mine if there is a problem it’s user error, or internet crashes I’m not linked to it. Here is a picture of how I ran four wavwmakers, led displays and one main display hub. Still was way cheaper than an apex and simpler. I do wish you good luck.

Sincerely
Sarah

 

[Bpb]

Ok. Maybe I’m wording it wrong. Instead of asking if it’s possible which we know it is how would I do it? I don’t wanna lose flow of other pumps if I have one running on 100%

No you’re wording it fine. The answer is there. Buy a reef link or an apex and you can allocate specific programs for each individual pump at whatever time of day and order you choose.

The “if I turn one to 100, I don’t want the other to be zero” statement is only a problem if you set one as a master and the others as slaves and you run anti sync mode.

Running reef link or an apex WXM is the answer to what you’re wanting to do

 

[BigMo]

Hello,

First off I don’t have the mp40s but I did beta test them at one point. What your trying to do in your 240 is exactly what I’m doing with my 240 only with the current eflux wave makers. I run the top two at times full stream because it’s most sps up top. On the bottom I run wave motion or aka pulsing wave motion.

Now with the current they each act as a slave within it’s own similar to the mp40. Each current comes with a hub and a remote and led display. Anyway there was no way I could control of the way I wanted. So thinking out side the box, I used four manifold hubs and linked one wave maker to each one and to an led display. Now they all use the same remote so it’s super easy to switch each pump and it tells you which mode your on.

Now I can’t honestly remember if those have manifold hubs or not, but if they do run four of them and daisy link them together. Then your main display should pick up each one as a different unit.

I’m honestly not overly fond of Ecotech live or their reef link. Way to many problems, at least with mine if there is a problem it’s user error, or internet crashes I’m not linked to it. Here is a picture of how I ran four wavwmakers, led displays and one main display hub. Still was way cheaper than an apex and simpler. I do wish you good luck.

Sincerely
Sarah

Very nice and colourful tank Sarah, congratulation;
How long is it been running for?
What are the dimensions?
How many live rocks you got there?
And finally, how does your overflow work? (where it is located and what is your return volume)?

Sorry I’m new and got lots of questions to design my system, thanks for your time in advance.

 

[Sarah24!]

Very nice and colourful tank Sarah, congratulation;
How long is it been running for?
What are the dimensions?
How many live rocks you got there?
And finally, how does your overflow work? (where it is located and what is your return volume)?

Sorry I’m new and got lots of questions to design my system, thanks for your time in advance.

Hello

Thank you for the kinda words and compliments. My tank is 72 long 24 deep and 34 inches tall. (Not fond of that since I have tiny arms. But I have about 200 pounds of live sand and maybe 180-190 pounds of live rock. I actually only had 100 pounds of live rock when I started because I moved from a 125-240. So the other rock was dry base rock that went on the very bottoms as base structures. My tank has been running a little over 9 months so it has grown quickly.

I use two current usa orbit marine pros (these are the powerful ones 60 degree lens not the 90 degree or ic loop version) for lights with brights at 50% and blues 100. I tried three and it was just way way way too much light it was extreme overkill. So have a third in the closet taking up space.

For wave makers I have four current eflux 2100 all on separate manifolds so I can control each one the way I want to with one remote. Lots and lots of cords and at first a wiring nightmare but after the first time it’s super easy. I also just added because I was offered to beta test it an ice cap 3k gyre that sits on the back glass.

For return pumps I have one for each over flow and those are the current dc 3100 gph return pumps and they definitely move some water. I do suggest dual returns pumps it has made life well easier for me. There is a lot of pipe so one was plenty but had to run it above 50% which I wasn’t fond of. By running two it increased my flow drastically but they only run at 20% if that.

The skimmer is a eshopps s-300 and although very sensitive it works great. I also have a current usa sump light but can’t remeber which one. My sump is a terrible design and is also why I love the dc returns. Before I knew better it didn’t have very many chambers or baffles to slow the water down enough to filter. With me turning the returns down enough I can force it to go slow. Also make sure you pick the right sump ahhh before you put it in and fill the tank up. Mine won’t come out and well kinda stuck with it.

I haven’t had very many issues and my build thread or kinda everything thread is Urgh seriously lol. But it covers a lot on my tank. If I could do the 240 over again I wouldn’t change equipment at all. I would throw the sump in the trash and start over lol. I have made lots of coves in my tank to give it I guess depth and it worked out very well.

I would leave enough room for you to go behind the tank to address issues or add things if needed. I left about a foot and I’m a very small girl and it’s barely enough room. I would also now that I see it would have had a separate place for all the cords and power supplies to go. As well as I bought my home before my tank was put in. But I would have had an electrician come in and wire in different wall outlets as well as raise the fuse capacity. It works fine now but yeah lol makes me a little nervous using like four power strips and they are maxed out.

I’m still thinking about having an electrician maybe come in and install a separate circuit just for my tank. This would
Be kinda of a chore but having him install like two or three feet off the ground something that cords can lay on or route through but then have a line of like 30 or More outlets in a row. Then have them tied into one main circuit but from that have it split into four sections. One for lights, one for wave makers and returns, one for the skimmer and heaters and maybe one for anything else we add. I’m going to have a 425 still and this is part of my plan for that one as well. Once that comes in and is ready I can move my 240 stuff into it temporarily until that is built. I don’t wanna break down my 240 so still chewing on that. I will have to take lots and lots of pics so I can set the aquascape back the way it was. But running the 425 is going to have quite a bit more components and I’m actuslly possibly going to use my third car garage that’s totally empty as the sump section. It just seems so much easier when adding or doing water changes and any work. Plus the water going through the pipes is the loudest part of my tank. (It’s not that and actually but I want my tank where I can stand in front of it or on the couch and not hear anything. I was successful equipment wise lol not sooo much sump wise.

But if you have any other questions by all means please feel free to ask.

Sincerely
Sarah

 

[ndrwater]

Ok. Maybe I’m wording it wrong. Instead of asking if it’s possible which we know it is how would I do it? I don’t wanna lose flow of other pumps if I have one running on 100%

Yiur wording is fine. As @Bpb said, unless you are running the pumps paired (or more) in sync or anti sync mode, each pump can be running g up to 100%. They can be independent and all running at 100% or less. Your option in programming. Using the WXM module, or Reeflink, or manually for that matter, gives you the option to control each pump individually. As mentioned above, the ONLY time you will have an issue you talked about, is when running multiple pumps in sync or anti sync paired with another pump.

 

[BigMo]

Hello

Thank you for the kinda words and compliments. My tank is 72 long 24 deep and 34 inches tall. (Not fond of that since I have tiny arms. But I have about 200 pounds of live sand and maybe 180-190 pounds of live rock. I actually only had 100 pounds of live rock when I started because I moved from a 125-240. So the other rock was dry base rock that went on the very bottoms as base structures. My tank has been running a little over 9 months so it has grown quickly.

I use two current usa orbit marine pros (these are the powerful ones 60 degree lens not the 90 degree or ic loop version) for lights with brights at 50% and blues 100. I tried three and it was just way way way too much light it was extreme overkill. So have a third in the closet taking up space.

For wave makers I have four current eflux 2100 all on separate manifolds so I can control each one the way I want to with one remote. Lots and lots of cords and at first a wiring nightmare but after the first time it’s super easy. I also just added because I was offered to beta test it an ice cap 3k gyre that sits on the back glass.

For return pumps I have one for each over flow and those are the current dc 3100 gph return pumps and they definitely move some water. I do suggest dual returns pumps it has made life well easier for me. There is a lot of pipe so one was plenty but had to run it above 50% which I wasn’t fond of. By running two it increased my flow drastically but they only run at 20% if that.

The skimmer is a eshopps s-300 and although very sensitive it works great. I also have a current usa sump light but can’t remeber which one. My sump is a terrible design and is also why I love the dc returns. Before I knew better it didn’t have very many chambers or baffles to slow the water down enough to filter. With me turning the returns down enough I can force it to go slow. Also make sure you pick the right sump ahhh before you put it in and fill the tank up. Mine won’t come out and well kinda stuck with it.

I haven’t had very many issues and my build thread or kinda everything thread is Urgh seriously lol. But it covers a lot on my tank. If I could do the 240 over again I wouldn’t change equipment at all. I would throw the sump in the trash and start over lol. I have made lots of coves in my tank to give it I guess depth and it worked out very well.

I would leave enough room for you to go behind the tank to address issues or add things if needed. I left about a foot and I’m a very small girl and it’s barely enough room. I would also now that I see it would have had a separate place for all the cords and power supplies to go. As well as I bought my home before my tank was put in. But I would have had an electrician come in and wire in different wall outlets as well as raise the fuse capacity. It works fine now but yeah lol makes me a little nervous using like four power strips and they are maxed out.

I’m still thinking about having an electrician maybe come in and install a separate circuit just for my tank. This would
Be kinda of a chore but having him install like two or three feet off the ground something that cords can lay on or route through but then have a line of like 30 or More outlets in a row. Then have them tied into one main circuit but from that have it split into four sections. One for lights, one for wave makers and returns, one for the skimmer and heaters and maybe one for anything else we add. I’m going to have a 425 still and this is part of my plan for that one as well. Once that comes in and is ready I can move my 240 stuff into it temporarily until that is built. I don’t wanna break down my 240 so still chewing on that. I will have to take lots and lots of pics so I can set the aquascape back the way it was. But running the 425 is going to have quite a bit more components and I’m actuslly possibly going to use my third car garage that’s totally empty as the sump section. It just seems so much easier when adding or doing water changes and any work. Plus the water going through the pipes is the loudest part of my tank. (It’s not that and actually but I want my tank where I can stand in front of it or on the couch and not hear anything. I was successful equipment wise lol not sooo much sump wise.

But if you have any other questions by all means please feel free to ask.

Sincerely
Sarah

WoW Sarah,

Thank you very much for your detailed and well informative post, it added a lot to my knowledge, just a little question do you use refugium in your sump and what method do you use to treat your tank(triton method, two part or...)?

Also please post a link to your build thread if possible.

I thank you again and sorry that I’m asking too much, its because you explain it well

 

[Sarah24!]

WoW Sarah,

Thank you very much for your detailed and well informative post, it added a lot to my knowledge, just a little question do you use refugium in your sump and what method do you use to treat your tank(triton method, two part or...)?

Also please post a link to your build thread if possible.

I thank you again and sorry that I’m asking too much, its because you explain it well

I ahhh well umm don’t know how to provide the link actually I’m terrible at using my smart phone. But if you click under threads from me lol it’s my Urgh seriously thread but it’s long, pretty funny but also covers about everything else you can think of also.

 

[BigMo]

I ahhh well umm don’t know how to provide the link actually I’m terrible at using my smart phone. But if you click under threads from me lol it’s my Urgh seriously thread but it’s long, pretty funny but also covers about everything else you can think of also.

Thank you very much Sarah,
I will definitely check your post and bug you with my questions