Mr. Adams of Reef Builders, something bugs me about your posts. . .

Sierra_Bravo · Jun 25, 2018

I'm not one to cause trouble (usually), but I have been known to state my mind on occasion.

I like your articles on Reef Builders and read them often. But for some reason, it bugs me that you choose to participate on R2R merely by posting links to drive traffic to your own website. That wouldn't bother me, really, except that you have never answered anyone's questions that I can find in reply to your posts.

I don't run this website, I'm not a mod, and have no authority. But I do have a polite opinion: If I were to use this forum in a commercial manner to benefit my traffic count, I'd at least up my sponser ship to a real level of support for the forum, and maybe answer some of the member's questions about your articles every once in a while. We'd probably enjoy reading your responses.

Edited to remove the word "clickbait" - SB

TerraFerma · Jun 26, 2018

Yes we anxiously await an update on the "No coral export ban" in Indonesia.

Genomecop · Jun 26, 2018

One of my favorite reefers. From the WIKI:

From a historical perspective, the techniques employed by clickbait authors can be considered derivative of yellow journalism, which presented little or no legitimate well-researched news and instead used eye-catching headlines that included exaggerations of news events, scandal-mongering, or sensationalism.[6][7] ...

That's not really what is happening here. His links take you to his blog where he does have information pertinent to what you expect.

Sierra_Bravo · Jun 26, 2018

Genomecop said:
One of my favorite reefers. From the WIKI:

From a historical perspective, the techniques employed by clickbait authors can be considered derivative of yellow journalism, which presented little or no legitimate well-researched news and instead used eye-catching headlines that included exaggerations of news events, scandal-mongering, or sensationalism.[6][7] ...

That's not really what is happening here. His links take you to his blog where he does have information pertinent to what you expect.

Thanks Genomecop; I'll grant you the definition of "clickbait" and change that word.

reef_ranch · Jun 26, 2018

And the purpose of this thread is what? Spreading negativity against a fellow reefer? Bah, life's too short.

Breadman03 · Jun 26, 2018

I find most of the articles interesting, but agree that it would be nice to have more interaction.

Doug B · Jul 10, 2018

I agree with the OP's assessment. I also think it would be awesome if Mr. Adams cared enough to reply.

Apotack · Jul 10, 2018

I agree with the op, I won’t even check his threads anymore.

KStatefan · Jul 10, 2018

I agree with the OP and have thought the same thing that it would be great if someone with his knowledge of reefing participated in discussions here also.

I took it as constructive criticism not negativity.

revhtree · Jul 10, 2018

Hello,

What you all don't understand is that we set up an RSS feed that converts the latest articles from Reef Builders into snippets in threads here on R2R. So really this is my fault but it's really no fault at all since we're doing it just to keep you aware of other good reefing topics on RB.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

gcarroll · Jul 10, 2018

revhtree said:
Hello,

What you all don't understand is that we set up an RSS feed that converts the latest articles from Reef Builders into snippets in threads here on R2R. So really this is my fault but it's really no fault at all since we're doing it just to keep you aware of other good reefing topics on RB.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Thanks for the clarification Rev!

hart24601 · Jul 10, 2018

Yes, ty for the clarification! I too found it annoying but know why now!

Sabellafella · Jul 10, 2018

I get where you guys are comming from. But I love the fact I can run across reefbuilders articles on here. Although jake is a busy guy, would be nice for him to get involved with some stuff that's been going on.

jolt · Jul 10, 2018

@revhtree maybe it would be good to somehow indicate in the post when things are pulled off RSS like that? I enjoy reading them, but I also felt is was a bit disconnected from the community (which makes sense now!)

TerraFerma · Jul 10, 2018

revhtree said:
Hello,

What you all don't understand is that we set up an RSS feed that converts the latest articles from Reef Builders into snippets in threads here on R2R. So really this is my fault but it's really no fault at all since we're doing it just to keep you aware of other good reefing topics on RB.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Just calling balls and strikes here - he doesn't respond to posts on his site feed either. The only thing I care about in this arena is his big all caps NO ban on Indo coral thing. It's kind of gauche to make that statement when two months later people are literally missing meals because no corals are being exported and he has no follow up. Lacks journalistic integrity.

Sierra_Bravo · Jul 11, 2018

For me, @revhtree has made my points moot; it's certainly not fair of me to be critical if the posts were not of his doing. Thanks for the clarification.

TheHarold · Oct 19, 2018

I think a good proportion of the articles are clickbait, the purpose to draw views to his site and to increase advertising income. He does not respond to questions or comments on his site as well— and you would think that someone would have mentioned this thread to him as well.

“Reef Builders” is a commercial business platform, not a platform dedicated to providing accurate information to hobbyists. There are a few magazines I can recommend that provide much more interesting and verified information regarding our hobby.

Zohar78 · Oct 19, 2018

doesnt he respond to some stuff in his vlogs/streams ? anyways, he does seem quite the busy person, and with that new "office" he deosnt have all the time he needs?

Genomecop · Oct 20, 2018

TheHarold said:
I think a good proportion of the articles are clickbait, the purpose to draw views to his site and to increase advertising income. He does not respond to questions or comments on his site as well— and you would think that someone would have mentioned this thread to him as well.

“Reef Builders” is a commercial business platform, not a platform dedicated to providing accurate information to hobbyists. There are a few magazines I can recommend that provide much more interesting and verified information regarding our hobby.

Why all the hate for Jake? Your saying 'not a platform dedicated to providing accurate information', what brought you to that conclusion? He is certainly NOT providing inaccurate information. Jake's running a business just like every other YouTuber and I find his videos informative and entertaining.

Flatlandreefer · Oct 20, 2018

From what I have seen, Jake is very involved in the hobby and has a positive Impact on our hobby. Sure he makes money off of it, but I'm sure he isn't in it for the money. IMO this criticism is unwarranted and overly critical!