My betta is sick

[toxic haste1234]

It has been laying around and not like it’s self in 1 gallon tank just did a water change it’s been laying on the bottom

 

[MnFish1]

This is not a freshwater site - However - Are there other symptoms. +1 on the water change - can you give more information. Betta live from 2-5 years - so I would wonder if its old age - assuming there are no symtoms otherwise

 

[MnFish1]

pictures would help

 

[toxic haste1234]

It died just now

 

[toxic haste1234]

I just got back to my phone cause I was watching it

 

[bluemon]

How long have you had this tank? And this betta?

Do you have plants or a filter in it?

 

[vetteguy53081]

It has been laying around and not like it’s self in 1 gallon tank just did a water change it’s been laying on the bottom

Bettas get sluggish when:
Temperature is too cool
When tap water is added - Do Not use tap- but distilled
When approaching 2 years of age
If it developed a bacterial issue

 

[vetteguy53081]

It died just now

Sorry to hear.

 

[MnFish1]

It died just now

Sorry to hear it!!!

 

[MnFish1]

Bettas get sluggish when:
Temperature is too cool
When tap water is added - Do Not use tap- but distilled
When approaching 2 years of age
If it developed a bacterial issue

I'm curious - For bettas its probably ok - since they can breathe air - but - in general - if you use distilled/RODI water for freshwater, you need to add a buffer of some kind - BTW - I'm asking question rather than making a statement.

 

[rennjidk]

1 gallon is not a tank. If I had to guess based on the zero information provided and water volume, it most likely finally succumb to the water quality. A labyrinth organ is not a replacement for good husbandry.

 

[vetteguy53081]

1 gallon is not a tank. If I had to guess based on the zero information provided and water volume, it most likely finally succumb to the water quality. A labyrinth organ is not a replacement for good husbandry.

These fish are found and raised in rice patties prior to shipments to the USA. The are labyrinth and need very little water opposed to air but 5 gallon often recommended

 

[vetteguy53081]

I'm curious - For bettas its probably ok - since they can breathe air - but - in general - if you use distilled/RODI water for freshwater, you need to add a buffer of some kind - BTW - I'm asking question rather than making a statement.

A dechlorinator recommended but reason for distilled is the lower Ph as they thrive best in water with a pH of 6.8 to 7.4. When pH levels are out of range, their water could contain ammonia levels in which its recommended to do weekly changes. If the water balance changes, can result in gill issues and death.

 

[rennjidk]

These fish are found and raised in rice patties prior to shipments to the USA. The are labyrinth and need very little water opposed to air but 5 gallon often recommended

Rice paddies are hundreds of acres long and over a foot deep. Their natural habitats are marshes the size of the Florida Everglades. One gallon is still not a tank, and a labyrinth organ is still not a replacement foe good husbandry.

 

[MnFish1]

Rice paddies are hundreds of acres long and over a foot deep. Their natural habitats are marshes the size of the Florida Everglades. One gallon is still not a tank, and a labyrinth organ is still not a replacement foe good husbandry.

IMHO - this is like saying reef fish live in oceans that are thousands of miles of water. Bettas can indeed live in very small areas of water - and can 'travel' over land to get to another one if needed. IMHO - I would keep a betta in a 5 gallon tank - perhaps - but - a one gallon tank is not 'bad husbandry'. And - it also likely did not cause this fish's demise.

 

[littlefoxx]

It has been laying around and not like it’s self in 1 gallon tank just did a water change it’s been laying on the bottom

Ive had bettas my whole life before going to saltwater. These fish do need perfect water quality. They also need a tank with filtration (very very minimal flow) but still need it for success with them. 5 gallons with places to hide is the best tank set up, most people think they dont need room to swim because they “come from small puddles”. This isnt true, bettas like having plants and other stuff to take cover in. Be careful to not over feed them, that wont be good. If you get another betta I recommend this tank set up as Ive had bettas live to 3 years in this condition. Also use the water suggestions from @vetteguy53081 . They also have “betta tanks” as some stores next to the bettas that replicate the tank set up I described, I would look into that. Sorry to bear for your loss, bettas are my favorite freshwater fish

 

[vetteguy53081]

Ive had bettas my whole life before going to freshwater. These fish do need perfect water quality. They also need a tank with filtration (very very minimal flow) but still need it for success with them. 5 gallons with places to hide is the best tank set up, most people think they dont need room to swim because they “come from small puddles”. This isnt true, bettas like having plants and other stuff to take cover in. Be careful to not over feed them, that wont be good. If you get another betta I recommend this tank set up as Ive had bettas live to 3 years in this condition. Also use the water suggestions from @vetteguy53081 . They also have “betta tanks” as some stores next to the bettas that replicate the tank set up I described, I would look into that. Sorry to bear for your loss, bettas are my favorite freshwater fish

I mentioned 5 gallons for tank
They don’t Ned much water during transport
I sold hundreds at my LFS until I found many of the kids buying them were fighting them
I sold short tail. Chinese, long fin and many show types

 

[littlefoxx]

I mentioned 5 gallons for tank
They don’t Ned much water during transport
I sold hundreds at my LFS until I found many of the kids buying them were fighting them
I sold short tail. Chinese, long fin and many show types

Yes you for sure did!

 

[rennjidk]

I mentioned 5 gallons for tank
They don’t Ned much water during transport
I sold hundreds at my LFS until I found many of the kids buying them were fighting them
I sold short tail. Chinese, long fin and many show types

It's not about being able to "survive". I can keep a large tang in a 10 gallon tank and it will survive. I can tie a german shepard to a tree it's whole life and it will survive. It's about quality of life and being a decent pet owner. I don't care how many company sell crappy "tanks" next to the betta displays, or how many have been sold in little cups at LFS. It's not humane, and it certainly isn't anything close to natural. Small spaces cause stress, and a stressed fish is a sick fish. Combine that with lack of heat, nitrification, or basic husbandry and you can absolutely shorten a fishes life substantially or flat out kill it (yes, even a betta).

3-5g is the absolute bare minimum any fish should be housed in, salt or fresh. 10g would be even better.

Mine was kept in a heavily planted 20g with a couple of ottos and amanos. He lived almost 4 years.

Edit: sorry, I was responding to multiple but only clipped your quote in multi

 

[littlefoxx]

It's not about being able to "survive". I can keep a large tang in a 10 gallon tank and it will survive. I can tie a german shepard to a tree it's whole life and it will survive. It's about quality of life and being a decent pet owner. I don't care how many company sell crappy "tanks" next to the betta displays, or how many have been sold in little cups at LFS. It's not humane, and it certainly isn't anything close to natural. Small spaces cause stress, and a stressed fish is a sick fish. Combine that with lack of heat, nitrification, or basic husbandry and you can absolutely shorten a fishes life substantially or flat out kill it (yes, even a betta).

3-5g is the absolute bare minimum any fish should be housed in, salt or fresh. 10g would be even better.

Mine was kept in a heavily planted 20g with a couple of ottos and amanos. He lived almost 4 years.

Edit: sorry, I was responding to multiple but only clipped your quote in multi

No I agree for sure. The cups are horrible. All my tanks for bettas were 10 gallons and they were the only fish in there, 5 is the bare minimum for a single betta IMO. I hate seeing them in cups in the store its so sad. The tanks Ive seen next to bettas at pet co are like 5 to 10 gallons at least the one I go to which is nice to see for a change instead of the little crates they pass off as tanks. Bettas are wonderful fish and I wish the industry would treat them with more care, and honestly that applies to all fish that are caught. My fish are my friends and I love them all!