My Current QT Process

HotRocks · Feb 20, 2019

joec said:
"I do use newly mixed water dosed with copper matching the tank they are coming out of for the transfer bucket."

Question, why is it necessary to have matched copper or any copper in the momentary transfer QT bucket water?

See my post just before yours.

chrishet · Feb 20, 2019

Sorry to inject in the conversation but I have a question. I am currently 7 days into my Hotrocks QT Process! (Copper Power/GC Feed treatment). My fish are all doing great but my water started clouding up - white. I used Seachem Seed to start my process and have been dosing a little each day - perhaps I over did it. I did a 10% water change and can continue but wanted to see if it was important to be more aggressive or just ride it out. TIA

HotRocks · Feb 20, 2019

chrishet said:
Sorry to inject in the conversation but I have a question. I am currently 7 days into my Hotrocks QT Process! (Copper Power/GC Feed treatment). My fish are all doing great but my water started clouding up - white. I used Seachem Seed to start my process and have been dosing a little each day - perhaps I over did it. I did a 10% water change and can continue but wanted to see if it was important to be more aggressive or just ride it out. TIA

Glad your fish are doing well.

I would either get more aggressive with WCs or if you have Furan-2 or spectrogram do a single dose. It will clear the bloom up usually.

It is important to get the bloom cleared, as it consumes oxygen heavily.

nbd13 · Feb 20, 2019

HotRocks said:
Glad your fish are doing well.

I would either get more aggressive with WCs or if you have Furan-2 or spectrogram do a single dose. It will clear the bloom up usually.

It is important to get the bloom cleared, as it consumes oxygen heavily.

Interesting I think I may have the same thing going on. I have 10 gallons net total, on day 3 of therapeutic copper level and the water is cloudy too.

I just dosed 1 capsule of spectrogram. How long should I give this to see if this works at clearing the water or not? I am agitating the water pretty aggressively as well. What is the next step if this doesn’t work?

Fish are doing great. I used Fritz turbo start 900 to seed the tank/hob sponge filter. Not sure if that matters or not.

Thanks

HotRocks · Feb 20, 2019

nbd13 said:
Interesting I think I may have the same thing going on. I have 10 gallons net total, on day 3 of therapeutic copper level and the water is cloudy too.

I just dosed 1 capsule of spectrogram. How long should I give this to see if this works at clearing the water or not? I am agitating the water pretty aggressively as well. What is the next step if this doesn’t work?

Fish are doing great. I used Fritz turbo start 900 to seed the tank/hob sponge filter. Not sure if that matters or not.

Thanks

It should work within 48hrs. I would dose another capsule though. The dosage is double for.marine application. So 2 caps per 10 gallons.

nbd13 · Feb 21, 2019

HotRocks said:
It should work within 48hrs. I would dose another capsule though. The dosage is double for.marine application. So 2 caps per 10 gallons.

Ok thanks. Should I do a water change in a few days to clear the antibiotic or is that not needed with this particular one. It doesn’t really say in the package.

Thanks

HotRocks · Feb 21, 2019

nbd13 said:
Ok thanks. Should I do a water change in a few days to clear the antibiotic or is that not needed with this particular one. It doesn’t really say in the package.

Thanks

For a single dose you don't have to. You can run carbon after a few days if you want.

If you were dosing it consecutively to treat for an infection then you would need to do 25% WCs between doses.

MrsBugmaster · Feb 21, 2019

For QT purposes, I fine that when using Bio-Spira, I don't get the bacterial blooms from overdosing like I do with the other product.

nbd13 · Feb 21, 2019

HotRocks said:
For a single dose you don't have to. You can run carbon after a few days if you want.

If you were dosing it consecutively to treat for an infection then you would need to do 25% WCs between doses.

Thanks. My water is a little more yellow today? Maybe from the spectrogram? Should I give it another 24 hours?

Thanks

HotRocks · Feb 21, 2019

Spectrogram will turn the water yellowish green. It should clear the bacterial bloom though. Yes I would give it more time.

Jason Roth · Feb 21, 2019

So when you take the fish out of the copper tank and put them in a clean setup for another 14 days with different meds, that second tank, can it be used for coral QT? I was planning on having 2 10g tanks. One for fish and other for corals/anemones. So I’m curious if the second QT you put the fish in can be used as both fish and coral(not at the same time)

Brew12 · Feb 22, 2019

Jason Roth said:
So when you take the fish out of the copper tank and put them in a clean setup for another 14 days with different meds, that second tank, can it be used for coral QT? I was planning on having 2 10g tanks. One for fish and other for corals/anemones. So I’m curious if the second QT you put the fish in can be used as both fish and coral(not at the same time)

I wouldn't risk it. Both from the perspective that velvet dinospores can survive for up to 2 weeks looking for a host and any residual meds from treating fish could hurt the coral. I would break it down and sterilize it before switching its use.

4FordFamily · Feb 22, 2019

HotRocks said:
Spectrogram will turn the water yellowish green. It should clear the bacterial bloom though. Yes I would give it more time.

Yep, spectrogram has a yellowish tinge to it.

nbd13 · Feb 22, 2019

4FordFamily said:
Yep, spectrogram has a yellowish tinge to it.

Will the yellow go away over time? Or would a water change help with that?

Thanks

4FordFamily · Feb 22, 2019

nbd13 said:
Will the yellow go away over time? Or would a water change help with that?

Thanks

Not as long as spectrogram is in the water. It doesn’t hurt anything, and spectrogram prevents some bacterial infections as well. But water changes would reduce it, it’s not permanent.

nbd13 · Feb 22, 2019

4FordFamily said:
Not as long as spectrogram is in the water. It doesn’t hurt anything, and spectrogram prevents some bacterial infections as well. But water changes would reduce it, it’s not permanent.

Ok. The fish have another 9 days in this tank with the copper. Then they get moved. Should I just leave it alone?

Thanks

HotRocks · Feb 22, 2019

nbd13 said:
Ok. The fish have another 9 days in this tank with the copper. Then they get moved. Should I just leave it alone?

Thanks

Is the bloom clearing up at all?

nbd13 · Feb 22, 2019

HotRocks said:
Is the bloom clearing up at all?

I think? It’s hard to say because now the water is yellow instead of white...

Can’t really tell for sure. I think the white was just replaced by yellow.