My First Reef - build

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I like this forum! I've been building this since december, so there is a bit to catch up on. I've been posting it on another site and updating it, but I kept a log of it. Sorry for the large influx of posts!


I like to read. One day while reading a magazine I exhausted all the freshwater content and decided to read back through it and hit the saltwater content. First thing I read was about pistol/goby pairs. I had to learn more. Enter Reef Central. The massive backlog of old threads are a wonderful place for someone like me. I search something interesting and can click through pages and pages of opinions and facts on a particular subject. I began planning how too turn my then discus tank into a saltwater tank.

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It's a terrible picture, but you get the idea of their colors. They were gorgeous!

Anyway I read a thread there on local fish stores. Enter Jason's Tropical Reef Fish Store! I basically went there to check it out. Look at livestock in person and such. I wasn't disappointed. Jason was super helpful and full of advice, including Socalireefs. There was someone else there I talked to who is a member of Socalireefs, Thank you Chris J My husband helped me build a stand. We used plans developed by an engineer on RC. Neither of us are particularly adept at building things with wood, so we probably wasted a little more materials and did things a little harder than another with experience would have.
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The doors are mounted with drawer slides. I'm sure it's not that big of a leap for most of you to make, but for Johnny and me it was a break through. We wracked our little brains trying to think of a way to mount doors that would slide smoothly across the front. The 'aha!' moment was satisfying.
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Johnny says we could park my car on it. I feel pretty good about it.
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With the stand built I hit a snag. We had a chance to buy a house so we jumped on it. Reef tank on hold. Bought house. Renovated house extensively. New paint all over, new carpet, tear down nasty popcorn ceiling, install 2 new toilets, new water heater, run plumbing for washing machine to be inside instead of outside under house (seriously, what the heck?). We sort of sat for a week or two in a kind of catatonic state after that. And then my husband that I love dearly said to me, "so what do you need to finish that tank?" So I ordered a glass hole saw, he bought me plumbing parts and glass for baffles and overflow and I started poking holes in my tank.
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The first hole plug.

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The water corraling contraption.

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And the first hole! I was very proud. It only took me 1 hour and 45 minutes. Ya. I have since discovered that going as fast as my little drill will go is ok after I get the initial groove and that still only got me down to about 30 minutes. I also had a hole that took me 2 hours. :yuck: I suspect that my drill bit is of inferior quality.

Sump baffles were easy, and the first thing I've ever done with silicone. I got some little bubbles but I'm not terribly upset about them.
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And the finished sump!
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Figuring out how to prop up the glass for the overflow was fun stuff. The bottom of the box wasn't so bad, but how to hold the front piece in place while siliconing? I pulled out the tape measure. I needed something 3 and 7/8" tall. haha. I started measureing things in the room. A small jelly jar that I was using to hold water turned out to be exactly that.
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I also pressed my tea mug into service.
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And my epic siliconing job.
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That's all the reef stuff for now! This is my other tank ;)
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I've been working again! I've never done any plumbing in my life, thankfully it's not that tough. I guess we'll see how tough it is when I actually get to leak test it. But before we get on the shoddy plumbing pics, remember how pleased with myself I was for finding the perfect sized jelly jars to hold up my overflow glass? They're the perfect size alright... to never come out again. The trim of the tank wouldn't allow them to scoot out, and being the perfect size I coudln't tip them to slide them out. Husband's answer? SMASH!
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He stuck a glove behind them because he was worried flying glass could shatter the overflow. hehe :) He didn't let me empty the water from the one with water in it. I was going to, went and got the lil airline hose and was on the way back down the stairs... SMASH SMASH SMASH. Hmm, guess I don't need the hose anymore.
The aftermath:
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Poor little jelly jars. They were so hard working. They made the trip out from Arkansas when I moved out here, with jelly in them that my mother made! I'll have to ask her for more ;)
Here is what my overflow looks like from the front. I made it too wide I think, but at least I can stick my hand in it and move around. Good for cleaning.
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And the bulkheads
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The expensive spa-flex that I was loathe to cut at all.
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The first cut. Yes I get overly excited about every phase of my build and take a picture. Does it show?
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Here we are a bit later (and lots of fumes, though properly vented by fan out the window) I'm having trouble routing the return pump hoses without binding them up. I'm worried the stress on the bulkhead of the sump and the plastic housing of the pump will over time cause stress fractures or something. Am I over thinking it? The hose wants to curl, that's what is creating the binding.
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And last, here is my return dohicky.
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And the unrelated picture. Smudge lost interest in me finally and found her own entertainment.
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The solution to the binding issue and allowing the whole thing to be closer to the wall. I removed the spa flex going from the sump to the pump and replaced it with regular pvc, except for about 1/3 of it.
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Glued and ready to go!
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After all the gluing had sat for 24 hours, I decided it was time for the dreaded leak test. So I pulled the hose in from outside, attached a nozzle and turned on the water. I figured since I had a nozzle I could just turn on the water full blast because I could close it from inside without having to dash outside to turn it off when things got full. Anyone see where this is headed? By the time I made it back to the front door the hose had flipped out of the tank and was doing the crazy snake dance all over the downstairs. I didn't get any pictures because I was too busy wrestling crazy hyper snake hose back into the tank and then cleaning up the mess. Husband was outside digging a trench around the house, so luckily I got it cleaned up in time to think of a funny story type explanation for the damp carpet smell before he came back inside to ask how it was going. Now that I've got my first flood story out of the way... Here's the water right before filling the overflow.
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By the way, the hose on full blast filled my 75g that full in about 7 minutes. The hose blasted the room for about 2 minutes. I don't even want to think about how much water that was. Many towels. Many, many towels. Anywho, the only leak I had was the emergency drain bulkhead. I tightened and loosened it and removed it 4-5 times before getting lucky and finding some kind of 'sweet spot'. The leak is very small now, but still there! I can't figure out why it leaks. Weirdly it's the only pipe I can easily remove if I really needed to. I'm hoping salt creep or mineral deposits will seal it eventually. The drains work exactly like they're supposed to! I don't know why I'm surprised, I copied a well known design that has been proved to work. lol
With the leak test finished, I can play with my rockwork! woot!
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What do you guys think? Critique? The tower on the left is for a future anenome hopefully, failing that I'll put some fast growing thing there that would otherwise take over all the rockwork if it weren't isolated. On that note, if I put pulsing xenia on that rock, can it spread anywhere else or is it isolated there?
 
The tank filled Sunday night. I ran it with only freshwater until around 3am on Monday when I started adding salt. Yup, I'm weird like that. I finished adding the last 8 cups of salt Tuesday morning. I was very excited to be adding salt. About cup 20 or so, the novelty wore off. It's lots of fun watching salt dissolve in your sump, being kicked around by the return flow. It's even more fun if you put little cuttings of pvc pipe you had leftover and watch them scoot around the bottom of the tank bulldozing the salt around. See? weird. I'm going to have tons of fun watching my CuC scoot around in the near future.
I figured out how to use my refractometer. I've been intimidated by it since my husband bought it off of amazon back in Nov. I finally read the directions. Then I felt silly. Put some water on the glass, look at a light. Read the line. Wow, that was easy! I don't even need reagents! No booklet of instructions to consult each time I need to use it. Just drip, close the cover, look, wipe clean. Enough text. On with the pictures! Because you know how picture happy I am.

Here's the sump with the pump off. Plenty of extra room. I could add more if I really wanted too, but then the flow would be over the baffles with the pump on. Note the jar in the return chamber. When the water level is much lower the pump creates a bubble vortex.. horizontally across the chamber! It twirls it so perfectly that I thought it was a piece of clear airline hose. I put the jar in to keep it from being able to do that. Then I found that adding more water (to the proper level) also stopped the vortex of air-sucking doom. I've just been too lazy to remove the jar. Also, I plan to leave it for when I invite some soon-to-be beginner salties over to see my progress. I'm going to tell them the jar prevents the pump from being noisy. Perhaps I can start a fad and everyone will have jars in the sump. Ya, just kidding.
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Yay, rocks, water and blue light! haha. I only turn on the lights for pictures. Because there is nothing alive in there!
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The wiring of the ATO. I bought kit online, complete with instructions. Just buy your own pump and extension cord and be willing to hack up the extension cord. Ok, so there was no real hacking. I've done wiring before, in fact, recently we replaced every outlet in our house, so it wasn't really scary. It's just fun to pretend.
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I didn't get any pictures rigging this thing up, but it involves dipping the plastic strip in boiling water and then quickly molding it how you want it to hold your float switches. Fun stuff sticking your fingers to something that was recently in boiling water.
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Here it is with the pump. I've since moved it over to the side to keep the flow from swinging the switch and making it bob.
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This is the box that came with the kit. It's for stuffing the relay and all your wiring into. Directions said to use a hobby knife to cut a hole. Sure thing. Always have a 'hobby knife' on me.
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Now just have to hold all this crap down so I can get the lid on.
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The ATO test reservoir.
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This morning when I came down to check on the tank (still expecting catastrophic failure, since I did the plumbing and hole cutting and whatnot) the ATO was sucking air. I thought the hose had come out of the butter tub, but no it had sucked everything up and the sump was down 1/2". I thought there was no way it had evaporated that much, so I did a VERY thorough leak check. Nothing. No leak anywhere. So I added half a butter tub of water. It sucked it up and needed more. This butter tub won't do. So, I upgraded.
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That should hold it through the night.

Also, I carried down a full jug like that and set it on a cushoin-y foot stool. I did a wobble test, decided it was safe and sat down on the floor in front of the sump. The jug was 2-3 feet behind me. Busy peering into the sump doing my leak check, I nearly came out of my skin when the thing fell off the stool and gave me a cold splash. I lost about half a gallon to the carpet. The cat was sitting where the jug had been. I think she pushed it. She also runs off with whatever I'm trying to work on if it's small enough. Drill bits, screws, wire nuts, pieces of wood I'm using to shim the stand, if it's been in my hands in the last few seconds and I put it down it's fair game. She's trying to sabotage me. You'd think she'd be all for a tank full of sushi.
 
One of the things that drew me in to the whole saltwater world was the idea that you could put some rocks in and then watch cool things (or not so cool things :ahhhhh: ) grow out of them. After starting my research however, I realized there is more than one school of thought on live rock. One, that you start with dead rock and seed it with super pest free rock from a reliable source. Two, that you start with rock that came from the ocean somewhere, shipped directly to you with minimal die off. Three, you can start will all of either one of those choices, or any mix in between I suppose. Two weeks ago I chose option 2 :D Now you can all tell me how foolish I am, but I'm really going to enjoy watching my rock during the cycle, and long after.

When I ordered my rock, it was out of stock. I also entered the wrong address on my paypal. Postal service doesn't deliver to our house up here on the mountain, only our PO box. Freaked out, and not knowing the rock I ordered was out of stock anyway, I called the company to give them the right address. The guy was very calm, and sorted everything out for me, and told me it would ship in a week, because they had to go get more. My rock shipped on Tuesday night. I know this because I got to track it. Thursday night my nifty tracker told me my rock was sitting in The city of industry, an hour away. :angry: It moved about half an hour to the sorting facility at San Bernardino around midnight, and then sat there. It finally made it up the mountain at 11am this morning! My lovely neighbor took me to get it, since husband has my car because of the snow. Can't ride a motorcycle in ice and snow ya know. Getting my hands on the box was very exciting. But you all know by now how excited I get over anything.. so anyway.

THE BOX!
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Nosey cat.

Inside the box!
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Heat packs. It was nice and warm inside. And not too bad of a smell either.

At this point I got really excited, and almost forgot to take any more pictures. But of course I did.
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I pulled most of the halimeda off. I didn't look too good anyway. I expect it to make an appearance later. There was one tiny dead crab. I sniff tested him to make sure he was dead. Yup, definitely dead.

And a few of it in the tank! At last!
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I also filled up my QT, but I didn't take any pictures of that. Not that interesting :)
 
The beginning of the upgrade (expansion?). The building of the stand! I let Johnny build this how he wanted as he seemed to have a plan. Also, I think he likes to overbuild things.

Yay, 4x4's!
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Each corner is held together by a giant screw, but the cross pieces are held in place by these:
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An assembled cross piece.
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Finished product, not yet leveled. Our floor slopes away from the wall, because the first floor joist after the wall is actually lower then the wall studs. Weird. It's not a bowing issue, it was like that before we put any furniture in the house at all.
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And now the under the house stuff. I measured the floor joists, they're actually 2x8.5 does this mean they're 2x8's or 2x10's? lol
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This is the added support we did.
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Good?
 
My first fish in quarantine!

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Bought my first fish from The Tropical Reef Fish Store.
It's so lovely I've carefully covered all the open spots so it can't jump. After seeing the much more expensive version leap out of a tank and vanish in the store I'm not taking chances. (it did turn up in another tank later)

These fish always look like they're pouting to me. It's the lavender stripe over the eye I think.
 
Great build going on there and beautiful FW tank!
 
I finally got the expansion up and running!

The whole shabang.
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The atrocious plumbing.
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The dividing point from the pump output. Had to use special abs to pvc glue. I was scared of it leaking!
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I ran the expansion by itself to get it up to temp and salinity. The original tank ran with just a power head and heater in it during that time, about 4 days. The corals and lone zoa frag I have closed up when I opened the valve between the tanks. Something in the water I guess. The snails stopped moving too and one of them went into his shell and let go of the rock. This afternoon though they're moving again, but slowly.

The new 75g sump. I think it's got about 40 gallons or so in it.
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I've not run a skimmer before, so this is it's maiden foam. Does it look right? The instructions say it may take a few days to produce skimmate and not to mess with the settings yet. I keep wanting to see the foam discolor already though.
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My husband keeps messing with the stand. He added these braces today. He says he's done with it, but we'll see :)
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And lastly, the quarantine tank! Firefish has been incarcerated for 8 days now :D Hang in there buddy!
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So, that's where I'm at today! In the tank I have so far: 1 zoa frag, 6 hermits, and 2 astrea snails. The fire fish went into quarantine on the 29th, and he'll be there until 6 weeks are up, unless he gets sick. Then I'll start on a yellow watchman :D Hope you enjoyed the read and if you've got any suggestions (some questions may have been answered for me already on another site) please let me know!
 
Looks great, love your freshwater tank too. Looking forward to seeing what you can do with a reef.
 
Little update.

Since the larger 75g sump is under the refugium, the 40 gallon got to move out. In moves the reservoir! We used this same setup in our apartment for months with no mishaps, using the water for top offs on my planted tanks (while waiting to use it for saltwater, before I knew we were moving).
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A closer look at the float valve.
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The big empty refugium has gathered these little cheato piles in it. If I shine a light in it at night I can see huge amphipods munching away in them. To me, this means they made it through the return pump!
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I'm wondering now though if when I get my mandarin should he go in the refugium or in the reef?

My poor little zoa frag. It closed up when I opened the valve between the tank and the expansion, and has only now just started opening again a week later. I played with the white balance option on my camera to get this shot, still not very good. lol
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