My First Week Experience with the Reef Moonshiners Program

I downloaded the handbook and took a look at these. Do most people find a lot of success dosing all of these daily? Just verifying what people are finding all of what's in the handbook as useful and not just a source of income for the seller. Then I'm considering DIY potassium supplement.

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yes however only the first 4, I don't dose Mud, vanadium is good now took a few months to correct.
 
My 2 cents…have a RS250 SPS dominant tank that’s been up for 3.5 yrs. Started the RM program about 2 yrs ago. I will say my corals have grown to the point where it’s becoming an issue…thinking upgrade as fragging is getting difficult. But, on the other hand, never got the crazy colors some talk about.

For me, having to dose 8 bottles manually every day, it’s become a pita, and I’ve become a slave to my tank. Can’t remember the last vacation I took ! The juice isn’t worth the squeeze IMO, so I’m switching over to the DIY AFR products to simplify my life somewhat. Single doser and no more tray of bottles !

I‘ve seen some amazing tanks with this method as well, and NOT having to dose 8 bottles everyday manually is a big plus for me.

Many ways to skin a cat….
 
My 2 cents…have a RS250 SPS dominant tank that’s been up for 3.5 yrs. Started the RM program about 2 yrs ago. I will say my corals have grown to the point where it’s becoming an issue…thinking upgrade as fragging is getting difficult. But, on the other hand, never got the crazy colors some talk about.

For me, having to dose 8 bottles manually every day, it’s become a pita, and I’ve become a slave to my tank. Can’t remember the last vacation I took ! The juice isn’t worth the squeeze IMO, so I’m switching over to the DIY AFR products to simplify my life somewhat. Single doser and no more tray of bottles !

I‘ve seen some amazing tanks with this method as well, and NOT having to dose 8 bottles everyday manually is a big plus for me.

Many ways to skin a cat….
Appreciate hearing another side of the shine. I started last Saturday with just the dailies while I waited for my icp to come back. I have started to see colors coming back on acros that had gotten pale. To early to tell how it’s going to go long term but enjoying the minute control I’m having over the tank at this point.
 
I on the other hand have had insane coloration and growth. I was so skeptical of this program when I first started. Didn’t see much change for the first couple of months and then suddenly wham. It’s like someone flipped the coral coloration light on. I also don’t like being a slave to the required dosing regiment, but I’m willing to be that slave given the comments I get from people that come over and see the tank. They say the corals have such intense colors they think the corals are fake! :beaming-face-with-smiling-eyes:
 
I on the other hand have had insane coloration and growth. I was so skeptical of this program when I first started. Didn’t see much change for the first couple of months and then suddenly wham. It’s like someone flipped the coral coloration light on. I also don’t like being a slave to the required dosing regiment, but I’m willing to be that slave given the comments I get from people that come over and see the tank. They say the corals have such intense colors they think the corals are fake! :beaming-face-with-smiling-eyes:
looked on your build thread for these colors, do you have any before and afters???
 
Ive been reefing for 43 years, my current tank has been set up for 21 years with a complete clean out restart from chlorine bath and all new substrate and Real Life Rock - Carib-sea 5 years ago in February of 2018.
The last 5 years has certainly had more challenges than I've ever had before setting up a system. I follow that all back to not clearing understanding the benefit of real live rock from the ocean.
I tried the Triton Method right from the start, never should have done that, tank was so unstable. I should have waited a year before starting the Triton Method. I was cursed with GHA, Dinos, Cyano, you name it, this tank had it. I got out of the ugly stage by 4 back to back to back to back Flucanozol treatments. Once that was under control, I went to Auto Water Changes 5 % weekly, and added the Apex Neptune with trident and really seen the instability in my system. Test kits can do it, but with a lot of labor. My entire Apex, Trident and all 4 DOS's have all paid for them selves in coral growth and lack of repeated death in SPS. I will say that the reef is actually that, a reef, for the first time in 5 years, my growth and color is doing well, but its slow and steady. I have solidly been on the exact same regiment for 1 year, I moved to Tropic Marin A & K trace dosing along with Tropic Marin Bacto balance dosing one year ago. This has been my best change to date.
After reading this thread, I have decided to move to the MM and see where it takes me. My reef has been exactly the same for one total year. My ICP test is on its way to Germany to ATI for analysis. I've now read the Reef Moonshiners Method guide book twice cover to cover, I pre ordered all the corrective juices recommended for first time users of MM. I know once I get my test back there will be more to purchase.
This is not going to be cheap up front. My system is 850 Gallons. I am NOT going to change one thing on my system in the next year. I will not change lighting schedule. flow schedule, feeding, filtration method, nothing. If the tank takes a negative of positive turn, it will solely be from the Reef Moonshiners method, or from my mistakes as a reefer.
Changing zero other processes should give me a very true result from this Moonshiners method. I'm going all in !!! I believe my reef is in such a stable documented place in its existence, that moving to this method should scientifically show its advantages or disadvantages. I'll keep up with cost and reef tank inhabitants overall health and report on fact not fiction, back to this forum. I have every fail safe in place to avoid any outside negative contributors. (fingers crossed.)
I will do an ICP test every 4 weeks for 6 months, then every other month from that point until end of year one.
So here it goes, stay tuned, we may even end up moving this to its own thread if it becomes a popular test.
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Its been over a year now. Would love to know your take on RMM good, bad, ugly. Thanks!
 
I always wish there was an experienced sps keeper that would run two tanks. One with and one without moonshiners to see the difference. It’s just me but I always feel like people who are experienced enough to want to dose all of these elements and stay on top of testing like that already have the ability to run an amazing reef. Maybe it is a game changer like folks say I just wish there was a 2 year long experiment with a control to reference. Keep us updated!
Look no further than competitive bass fishing. Professionals will out fish us recreational everyday and twice on Sunday regardless what equipment used. Knowledge leads to success. Not bashing any system but success likely higher with those in the knowledge vs the rest of us.

I'm headed this direction but don't expect the success those with years behind them keeping corals have. I'm a realist. Not a lottery player.
 
looked on your build thread for these colors, do you have any before and afters???
Sadly don’t have many before pics, but here are some current pics…
 

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Just like most of these stop posting and very little updates. Also doesn't have a build thread to follow
 
I've looked over their website, but I'm having a hard time understanding them, especially after having 2 strokes last June 2024, now it's really tough. :beaming-face-with-smiling-eyes: My continued.... plans are to build my living room 125g in-wall this winter and convert the bedroom behind it into the reef room. Back in the 90's a 75g was there back then. I have several tanks from my past, to have a hospital tank, QT fish tank a QT for corals etc. Anyway, I'd like to understand this system as I always plan ahead. How do I even start with this Moonshiners ?
 
I've looked over their website, but I'm having a hard time understanding them, especially after having 2 strokes last June 2024, now it's really tough. :beaming-face-with-smiling-eyes: My continued.... plans are to build my living room 125g in-wall this winter and convert the bedroom behind it into the reef room. Back in the 90's a 75g was there back then. I have several tanks from my past, to have a hospital tank, QT fish tank a QT for corals etc. Anyway, I'd like to understand this system as I always plan ahead. How do I even start with this Moonshiners ?
you don't start with moonshine you finish with it lol but seriously
 
My 2 cents…have a RS250 SPS dominant tank that’s been up for 3.5 yrs. Started the RM program about 2 yrs ago. I will say my corals have grown to the point where it’s becoming an issue…thinking upgrade as fragging is getting difficult. But, on the other hand, never got the crazy colors some talk about.

For me, having to dose 8 bottles manually every day, it’s become a pita, and I’ve become a slave to my tank. Can’t remember the last vacation I took ! The juice isn’t worth the squeeze IMO, so I’m switching over to the DIY AFR products to simplify my life somewhat. Single doser and no more tray of bottles !

I‘ve seen some amazing tanks with this method as well, and NOT having to dose 8 bottles everyday manually is a big plus for me.

Many ways to skin a cat….
Agree with you. However there are those, such as Activ8, who will take your ICP, regardless of who you sent it to, and send you a months worth of the trace elements that need to be dosed, along with the amount, in one mixture for under $20. Along with it comes an explanation as to what and why. This eliminates the need to buy all the individual elements.
 
Agree with you. However there are those, such as Activ8, who will take your ICP, regardless of who you sent it to, and send you a months worth of the trace elements that need to be dosed, along with the amount, in one mixture for under $20. Along with it comes an explanation as to what and why. This eliminates the need to buy all the individual elements.
That makes sense. Now just need the one doser plus another for something such as AFR and reefing just got simpler.
 
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