My new SPS Tank

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Kato said:
it would be cool some time to have a replica tank of this in a different part of the world. Exact same concept, changes, lights, etc. Not many people can take a <1 month old tank, fill it up with SPS and just see them take off.
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I'm planning to try it once I get water in my tank.
 
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unchaotic said:
I'm planning to try it once I get water in my tank.
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Great. Please document. And this is done with dry rock. I think I mentioned it before in this thread, but there is something here that is different. And I don't think its the minor things like sump layout, etc.

I wonder if a triton test could be done on this tank?
 
Roberto Denadai said:
Hi Guys,

After five years of keeping a Fish Only, I just started a new SPS tank.

This tank has 50 days and I´m keeping my alk and ca just with kalkwasser. In 2 or 3 months I think I will start with balling ( tropic Marin ) plus kalk

My setup is :

2x Hydra 52
1x Hydra 26 HD
2x T5 Blue Plus
2x T5 Coral Plus

Nero5 , Mp40 and Gyre

Viper 3.0

Skimmer octopus 1000

Apex controller and I´m dosing kalk with kamoer.

No3 = 0 ( salifert )
Po4 = 0,03ppm ( Hanna )
Alk = 7,5 ( Hanna )

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This is the last video that I did for my youtube channel and I show my sump in this video :



Best Regards
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Truly awesome setup Roberto. I love the austhetics of your tank. Goodluck on your journey. Will be following.
 
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I've started SPS tanks within days of filling them and using dry rock. The trick like the OP says is to introduce livestock conservatively.

Tanks go through uglies because the tank has to catch up to nutrient levels. OP is having nutrient levels catch up to the tank.

Still, there are potential perils here if you aren't on the ball. A macro die off for instance due to low nutrient levels could send things spiraling.
 
Kato said:
I think I mentioned it before in this thread, but there is something here that is different. And I don't think its the minor things like sump layout, etc.
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Roberto's method seems to be all about using coral and macros at the beginning to consume ammonia rather than establishing nitrifying bacteria to convert the ammonia to nitrites/nitrates. So as long as a balance is maintained and the tank isn't overstocked with fish at any point there should never be an overabundance of nitrates.

I plan to dose some ammonia for the corals and macros but they will get some simply from feeding the coral animal itself. I'll test multiple times a day to get an idea of how much they can consume. Then I'll have to test regularly again when adding new livestock.

The system makes sense to me and I believe it will avoid establishing a huge bacteria load that could partially die off when corals and macros start out-competing them for the ammonia.
 
I agree, however, had the tank gone south someone would say there's not enough fish waste to feed the SPS. I believe nothing but ca, mg and alk is dosed. And there's a lot of SPS here in a relatively small footprint.
 
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unchaotic said:
Roberto's method seems to be all about using coral and macros at the beginning to consume ammonia rather than establishing nitrifying bacteria to convert the ammonia to nitrites/nitrates. So as long as a balance is maintained and the tank isn't overstocked with fish at any point there should never be an overabundance of nitrates.

I plan to dose some ammonia for the corals and macros but they will get some simply from feeding the coral animal itself. I'll test multiple times a day to get an idea of how much they can consume. Then I'll have to test regularly again when adding new livestock.

The system makes sense to me and I believe it will avoid establishing a huge bacteria load that could partially die off when corals and macros start out-competing them for the ammonia.
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It would be good to understand it a bit deeper. Hence a triton test. I don't think this is just no3 or po4 being at some value with fish and corals. Most other 'evidence' show no3 and po4 undetectable with new dry rock will cause a disaster very quickly.
 
Kato said:
It would be good to understand it a bit deeper. Hence a triton test. I don't think this is just no3 or po4 being at some value with fish and corals. Most other 'evidence' show no3 and po4 undetectable with new dry rock will cause a disaster very quickly.
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I would say if your nitrates go from detectable to undetectable then you do not have enough nitrogen (ammonia) in the system to support everything. This could lead to a die-off of whatever is taking it up slowest and it seems reasonable to me that that would start with more fragile corals and also bacteria in the rocks/sand. A massive die-off of bacteria would certainly have consequences.
 
Sure, just a bit anecdotal that things make sense (common thing in this hobby). Now that we have a tank that seems to defy most rules we take for granted, plus this is not the first tank of this author that looks spectacular (nice job), I'm just advocating we should learn as much as we can if the author is willing to.
 
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@Kato the progress on my build thread is all kinds of slow but you're welcome to follow it. My system is going to be over 300 gallons total and I'm also planning a 10g office tank (might do a separate build thread) so I guess I'll be covering two ends of the spectrum.
 
Kato said:
What do you run your PH at? Do you know?

Given your results contradicts pretty much what is 'common' knowledge in this community, it would be cool some time to have a replica tank of this in a different part of the world. Exact same concept, changes, lights, etc. Not many people can take a <1 month old tank, fill it up with SPS and just see them take off.

The tank looks great!.
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Yes, I know my pH, but I think it´s time to calibrate my apex probe :)

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Kato said:
I wonder if a triton test could be done on this tank?
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IMHO triton ICP is just a waste of time and money. The standard deviation is so huge for trace elements that the ICP test is completely useless.

In this year ( 2021 ) I just tested alk in my tank and that´s it.

If you know what are you doing, keep a reef tank can be very easy without a lot of things ( products, tests, equipment etc )

Cheers
 
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Exactly, everything is easy when you know what you're doing ;). Good job here.
 
Looks good. I am having issues pushing the ph past 8. Now since the kids and wife are home for summer. Im thinking of dosing Kalk to help with the Ph and Alk, since Im right at 7.5 alk.

Tank is only a month old, contrary to popular belief, the SPS LPS and fishes are doing great :)
 
Mystikal said:
Looks good. I am having issues pushing the ph past 8. Now since the kids and wife are home for summer. Im thinking of dosing Kalk to help with the Ph and Alk, since Im right at 7.5 alk.

Tank is only a month old, contrary to popular belief, the SPS LPS and fishes are doing great :)
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Very nice, kalk is really good to keep alk and ca, as a bonus raise the pH.

Cheers
 
Out of curiosity, what temperature do you run the tank at? I have heard that some dinos have trouble at higher temperatures.
 
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Truly amazing, love the minimal aquascape. Also trying to start my new build off with corals first this time around. Curios about the effect, Im also going to run the triton method for my tank. Nice thread though, with many good pointers and alot of epic pictures of stunning sps ;)
 
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