My reef hates me...

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Some on here to young to know that classic.

Did you pick your screen name from that road on the way to Laughlin?
 
Kalk paste works but for a small number of aptasia. Tru;y, the best recourse for an infestation id the kleini butterfly - THE BLUEHEAD VERSION !!
While copperband should eat them, no guarantee and thats IF the copperband will eat long term after aptasia are gone.
peppermint- Thats IF theyll eat aptasia instead of going after coral such as zoa.
The Kleini will eat all dry and frozen food, stays small, no interest in coral, model citizen and eats aptasia like camdy. I have two and attest from experience. The one in my 135g took down an infestation in 4 days !!

Blue head

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Yellow- will eat aptasia but coral next

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Kalk paste works but for a small number of aptasia. Tru;y, the best recourse for an infestation id the kleini butterfly - THE BLUEHEAD VERSION !!
While copperband should eat them, no guarantee and thats IF the copperband will eat long term after aptasia are gone.
peppermint- Thats IF theyll eat aptasia instead of going after coral such as zoa.
The Kleini will eat all dry and frozen food, stays small, no interest in coral, model citizen and eats aptasia like camdy. I have two and attest from experience. The one in my 135g took down an infestation in 4 days !!

Blue head

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Yellow- will eat aptasia but coral next

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I think you might be the exception, not the rule with blue heads and coral nipping. Others haven’t had the same outcome. I’m not dismissing your claim, I just think that people should do a little research before getting one.
 
I think you might be the exception, not the rule with blue heads and coral nipping. Others haven’t had the same outcome. I’m not dismissing your claim, I just think that people should do a little research before getting one.
I know dozens who gave them a shot and are amazed.
 
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I know dozens who gave them a shoy and are amazed.
I’m sure there are. There are many more with a different outcome. They do not work for everyone. Everyone that sells them will advise you that they may nip corals, maybe just to cover their butts, maybe because it’s happened in the past. There are many threads of people losing a lot of corals to the blue head. It’s dangerous to tell everyone posting an Aiptasia outbreak to get one. They are not reef safe for everyone.
 
I’m sure there are. There are many more with a different outcome. They do not work for everyone. Everyone that sells them will advise you that they may nip corals, maybe just to cover their butts, maybe because it’s happened in the past. There are many threads of people losing a lot of corals to the blue head. It’s dangerous to tell everyone posting an Aiptasia outbreak to get one. They are not reef safe for everyone.
Same with those who stated copperband who are Reef safe caution and mine of 6" couldnt care less about corals.
Also applies to peppermint shrimp who numerous times have been seen to turn on coral right on here not to mention them doing the same at my store, that I stopped selling them.
 
Same with those who stated copperband who are Reef safe caution and mine of 6" couldnt care less about corals.
Also applies to peppermint shrimp who numerous times have been seen to turn on coral right on here not to mention them doing the same at my store, that I stopped selling them.
Look, nothings ever a problem until it’s a problem. I get it, you obviously are very knowledgeable. Most people posting Aiptasia problems are not seasoned veterans with a ton of experience with fish behavior and how to handle it. I’m not going to argue with you. People need to educate themselves and perform their due diligence, before getting one and that’s just the fact of the matter. I’m not saying that every blue head will eat all your corals. I’m saying it is more than slightly possible that they will nip at some corals. Can that behavior be fixed by a novice already dealing with an issue and stressed out about the hobby? I don’t know, maybe
 
This is true. Two drawbacks are that we are left to believe the seller of the shrimp as to wether they’re the right one and if you have a high flow sps tank, they will find a ledge or crevice and hide out doing a little dance, not venturing very far.
Take a flashlight at 2:00 am and look around in your tank . You will be surprised at how much current they can tolerate when their hungry lol :beaming-face-with-smiling-eyes: . Sorry to hear about your health issues and vision loss.
 
The nudibranchs have worked for me twice, but, I never mixed them with peppermint shrimp.

It did take about a year though before I saw the aip population go down - and I just used Kalk paste to keep them away from select corals while I waited and waited and waited for the nudis to get it done.

Then, one day, the aips were 100% gone - and I never did see a nudibranch.
 
Take a flashlight at 2:00 am and look around in your tank . You will be surprised at how much current they can tolerate when their hungry lol :beaming-face-with-smiling-eyes: . Sorry to hear about your health issues and vision loss.
Thank you. Back in the day I did just that. Hiding in their spot, bobbing up and down. At feeding time, with the pumps turned down a bit, they would come out and forage. They will work for most, I just have a ton of flow in a bare bottom tank. One of the downsides to super high flow. Manual removal is out for me know. I’m on my third shot with berghia. I have learned that they don’t reproduce like bunnies in a super high flow tank with bristleworms and pods galore. This go around, I put 44 in the display, and kept six in a separate 1 gallon tank to breed. They had a slew of babies, I’ll release them in the tank when they’re big enough and keep another 6 to breed and continue the cycle. I would try a copperband or blue head but with my condition I can’t handle the task. Marine collectors has fully quarantined cbbs for about $600! Blue heads are around $200 from him, but he is adamant that they are not reef safe and I trust him implicitly.

edit….and congrats on your award!
 
Does manual removal include popping them? I hear this is highly debated...that's how emeralds would do it, is there a risk for spreading it MORE if you do it on your own? Does it actually slow it down?
If you're careful, you won't pop them. It's tricky, but doable so long as you have a tank set up where you can easily lift rock out. I'd say remove as much as you can by hand.

You might want to try emerald crabs again. Mine ate all the bubble algae it could reach in the first week. I've heard females have a nicer temperament than the males, but don't know really. You might have just gotten unlucky with the ones you picked.
 
I can't help with the aptasia but I did have a bad case of bubble algae previously.
I ended up buying a Foxface Rabbit fish for it and within a month it was all gone. Took a week or two before it did anything to the bubble algae but then it was quite sudden and boom... gone.

I've heard it can be hit and miss with rabbit fish though. I was also told the 'uglier' ones with less colours etc do a better job of it and the brighter ones aren't as reliable to do it.
I was hanging out for one of the dull ones and was going into my local every week for 2-4 weeks and then one day spoke to the owner and he offered up a foxface he had in one of his coral tanks (initially wanted a foxface in the first place so this worked out well) and was pleasantly surprised.
 
Oh, and for bubble algae, I did have luck with emerald crabs and vibrant, which some people take a dim view of lately - due to it being a suspected algaecide and not a magic bacteria, but, it did kill off the bubble algae for me.
 
I've been up and running for over a year now, and things have seem to stabilized. Stable enough to where I'm knee-deep in pest city and I can't seem to get out of it.

Aiptasia. Is. Everywhere. In my sump. on my rocks, on my powerheads, in my coral, under my coral, floating through the water looking for crap to stick to.

I've tried so many different things to nuke it, but it's incredibly persistent:
  • I have four peppermint shrimp in there right now. They seem to want to pick at corals and eat stuff out of the sand. They have no interest in
  • I bought a dozen nudibrancs. They acclimated just fine, crawled out of the jar, and have never been seen again. Would the clownfish have eaten them? I have no clue. They were medium size (1/4" - 1/2") and seemed quite happy. Yes, I've looked at night in the dark. And no I can't ever find one.
  • I've used some F Aiptasia. Works like a champ, but really, really makes my corals near the Aiptasia grumpy. If I covered every one I had in the tank, the entire thing would be straight up White Christmas.
  • I just got a Filefish to try to eat some of the tiny ones before they get too bit, but he seems perfectly contnet is just eating the pods off the glass. :(
I'm curious what others have done to fix this and if I'm missing anything obvious. The goal is not to rip down my entire aquascape and bleach the rock work out, especially since I have some fish in here already.

SECOND! Bubble Algae. I've got this spreading everywhere, too. Phosphates are high, and I know I need to get them under control. Plan is to start some GFO

I've also tried some emerald crabs, but they're happy just nipping at random coral or algae spots. They don't seem to be too worried about the bubble algae....

Trying not to get frustrated here, but clearly I'm not in control of anything going on right now :(
Hello Siberwulf. I have a high power laser for zapping them, but I think they spread fast with this method. It is fun zapping them and watch them fry. If you want to try it I will send it to you, just pay shipping. Anthony
 

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