Naoko UNWD?

[Slocke]

Bought two weeks ago. After a couple days it looked in full health but last couple days its started swimming clumsily.

 

[Slocke]

He's not eating it seems or even trying to eat. Also completely fearless. I reached in and he had no response whatsoever. Like he immediately ate from my hand when I got him but showing no fear is still very strange.

Any advice? I'm really worried!?

 

[MnFish1]

Can you give some more information?

1. How did you acclimate (salinity/temp, etc)
2. I do not know what the abbreviation UNWD means.
3. Did you QT? How are other fish in the tank? Any bullying? Did it swim totally normally at first?
4. Any obvious injury/lesions?
5. What are your tank parameters?

I guess my first thought was a Swim bladder problem - or some injury from shipping, etc. Can also be a neurologic disease of some sort - or another early disease that is not evident.

6. Did you treat with any medications - that might be toxic?

FYI - while you get back to us - here is a nice summary article - that goes through many common wrasse problems:

What's Wrong With My Wrasse?

An article about how to manage a sick wrasse in the saltwater aquarium.

www.reef2reef.com

 

[Slocke]

Drip acclimation for 1.5 hours while floating.

UNWD is unknown neurological wrasse disease

I don't quarantine or use medications. And it was perfectly normal. Swam normally with fins in first couple days. Afterwards it started showing its dorsal pelvic and anal fins. Ate well. Swam really well gliding through out my rock work. Yesterday started bumping into things and ate less.

No injuries or other obvious problems

1.0255
77F
Nitrate 5-10ppm
no Ammonia or nitrite
alk 8.7
don't dose anything

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Drip acclimation for 1.5 hours while floating.

UNWD is unknown neurological wrasse disease

I don't quarantine or use medications. And it was perfectly normal. Swam normally with fins in first couple days. Afterwards it started showing its dorsal pelvic and anal fins. Ate well. Swam really well gliding through out my rock work. Yesterday started bumping into things and ate less.

No injuries or other obvious problems

1.0255
77F
Nitrate 5-10ppm
no Ammonia or nitrite
alk 8.7
don't dose anything

I posted on the other thread. The lack of feeding response tends to take my away from the UNWD diagnosis, and leaning more to a strike injury. What happens if you try to hand feed it now?

Jay

 

[Slocke]

I posted on the other thread. The lack of feeding response tends to take my away from the UNWD diagnosis, and leaning more to a strike injury. What happens if you try to hand feed it now?

Jay

It swam right into my hands but won't eat and keeps flopping upside down or on its side. It keeps accidentally swimming into pumps and gets flung around. Still very energetic but clumsy and deteriorating rapidly.

 

[Slocke]

I tried feeding and it tried but...

It started looking strange yesterday and has steadily deteriorated.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

I tried feeding and it tried but...

It started looking strange yesterday and has steadily deteriorated.

It does look like it is trying to feed, so that would be in the realm of symptoms for this issue, sorry!

Jay

 

[Slocke]

It does look like it is trying to feed, so that would be in the realm of symptoms for this issue, sorry!

Jay

Well thanks for the replies. He was my favorite fish as my profile picture shows.

Any advice now?
I have a mealnurus but it’s a fairly different species I believe and I’ve never seen any at LFS’s show any of those symptoms. No other wrasse in my tank. Is it worth it to euthanize sooner?