Need help confirming ich or velvet or something else?

MamaP · Dec 5, 2020

I noticed white spots on the fins of my whitetail BT tang yesterday and today my royal gramma has some.

I did the hybrid TTM with H2O2 on days 1 and 7 and treated prophylacticly with Metroplex during TTM and then Prazipro during observation on my last additions (the tang, a royal flasher wrasse that has disappeared, and a yellow watchman goby), the same process as I have done with my others, since I lost most of my fish to an ich outbreak last year.

I don't know if I missed the 72 hour deadline on a transfer, or if maybe something came in on a snail in my last bunch, but either way, I have something going on, and I need to be sure I'm treating correctly. I'm thinking ich, but I need to be sure. I did notice tonight that they seem to be scratching on stuff. Please see pics below and help me confirm. TYIA!

Jay Hemdal · Dec 5, 2020

It does look like ich on the tang. If the fish aren't breathing rapidly, you can rule out velvet. The gramma has some caudal fin damage. Could it have gotten tagged by another fish?

Jay

MamaP · Dec 5, 2020

Jay Hemdal said:
It does look like ich on the tang. If the fish aren't breathing rapidly, you can rule out velvet. The gramma has some caudal fin damage. Could it have gotten tagged by another fish?

Jay

Hi, Jay. Thank you for responding!

It's possible someone nipped the gramma's tail. Did you see the spots on it, though?

You're pretty sure it's ich, though, and not velvet?

Dolelo96 · Dec 5, 2020

Not a great picture, but this is my Whitetail with velvet..

On mine, It looked more like he swam through powder

HB AL · Dec 5, 2020

I say its ich. Velvet probably woulda killed one by now and velvet looks more like dots with a white film all over the fish. I wouldnt sweat it, are they eating, if so feed them more than usual and feed them some quality food. Keep your water as pristine as possible. They will fight it off on there own as long as water is pristine and they are eating alot of quality food.

Jay Hemdal · Dec 6, 2020

MamaP said:
Hi, Jay. Thank you for responding!

It's possible someone nipped the gramma's tail. Did you see the spots on it, though?

You're pretty sure it's ich, though, and not velvet?

Velvet it rarer to see than ich, and fish with velvet breath really fast, swim into currents, stop eating and die pretty quickly. Visually, the spots from velvet are a bit smaller than ich.
Jay

MamaP · Dec 6, 2020

Jay Hemdal said:
Velvet it rarer to see than ich, and fish with velvet breath really fast, swim into currents, stop eating and die pretty quickly. Visually, the spots from velvet are a bit smaller than ich.
Jay

Ok. That would confirm for sure, because they're still eating like champs, and they're not doing any of those behaviors! (Yay!)

Thank you so much, Jay!

Aaaand now I get to go about taking my tank apart, catching everyone, and going thru TTM AGAIN on a much larger scale, and the joy of going fallow... again...UGH -.- Better than the quick killing velvet tho!