Need help with a Royal Gramma

[timrocks311]

This is my third Gramma. I haven't had good luck with them. The first two died abruptly in QT, now this third is having issues.

Anyway, he's lethargic and not eating well. I've had him a week and just today he looks worse. He looked great in store. His body looks good but around his face and one eye it's looking cloudy and puffy. I cant get a good pic. This is all I got. Please help diagnose and how I should treat. Thank you!

 

[Brad Miller]

What are the water parameters of the tank he is in now ?

 

[timrocks311]

78 degrees
1.026 salinity
0 ammonia
0 nitrite
20 ppm nitrate
8.2 ph

It's a 10 gallon tank and I just did a 50% water change 2 days ago.

I'm thinking about getting some Furan-2.

 

[timrocks311]

I will add he has looked okay up until today. He is out and swimming regularly but also hides a lot with is expected. He eats but not great. Likes mysis the best but would only eat a couple and stop. I haven't treated him with anything else yet. Just this evening I notice him looking more lethargic, lying more on his side.

 

[Gareth elliott]

The cloudy eye plus the marks on face look like flukes are at play here.

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

Has he been through any treatments? How long have you have him? Was this one in the same tank as the previous two that died?Flukes can cause a cloudy eye especially if it just in one eye.
To check for flukes perform a 5 min FW dip as instructed below.
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/freshwater-dip.248898/

If there aren’t any flukes I would dose the trifecta as described below for a bacterial infection.
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/dosing-the-trifecta.386582/

Can you get better pics of the head and affected areas?

 

[timrocks311]

Has he been through any treatments? How long have you have him? Was this one in the same tank as the previous two that died?Flukes can cause a cloudy eye especially if it just in one eye.
To check for flukes perform a 5 min FW dip as instructed below.
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/freshwater-dip.248898/

If there aren’t any flukes I would dose the trifecta as described below for a bacterial infection.
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/dosing-the-trifecta.386582/

Can you get better pics of the head and affected areas?

I've had him just over a week and have not yet treated anything because he hasn't eaten as well as I hoped. I have Prazipro that I usually treat for flukes just in case. He is in the same tank that the others were, but I haven't tried 3 Grammas in a row. I've successfully QT'd two other fish since my last Gramma I tried.

I'll freshwater dip when I get home today and start Prazi if I see any.

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

I've had him just over a week and have not yet treated anything because he hasn't eaten as well as I hoped. I have Prazipro that I usually treat for flukes just in case. He is in the same tank that the others were, but I haven't tried 3 Grammas in a row. I've successfully QT'd two other fish since my last Gramma I tried.

I'll freshwater dip when I get home today and start Prazi if I see any.

Keep us posted

 

[timrocks311]

I did a freshwater dip and revealed flukes I think. Started Prazipro.

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

I did a freshwater dip and revealed flukes I think. Started Prazipro.

Yes, those look like flukes. You should also start the antibiotics (trifecta) to treat for a secondary infection that is sure to follow.
Good job!

 

[timrocks311]

Yes, those look like flukes. You should also start the antibiotics (trifecta) to treat for a secondary infection that is sure to follow.
Good job!

Will do. I have Furan 2 coming tomorrow. Can I do both at the same time?

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

Will do. I have Furan 2 coming tomorrow. Can I do both at the same time?

Yes, just make sure you aerate the water heavily. Do you have Kanaplex?

 

[timrocks311]

Yes, just make sure you aerate the water heavily. Do you have Kanaplex?

No I'll have to get some I guess.

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

Here is a write up on the Trifecta, I would do your first round of Prazi do the WC then start this.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/dosing-the-trifecta.386582/