Need Help with my skimmer!

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Ok so I am new to the hobby and have a fairly new tank. I purchased a Seaclone 100 skimmer (unfortunately) because I did not read any reviews on skimmers. I had no idea that they could all be so different. I originally just checked to see if it worked for the tank my size and it did so i bought it. Now that I have made this mistake I have a problem with the skimmer. When I get it tuned the way I want to get skimmate it starts to produce tons and tons of micro bubbles into my tank (not attractive). The only way to get rid of the bubbles is to turn it all the way down, however, when I do that it does not skim anything at all. Has anyone else ever been able to properly work this type of skimmer? Any suggestions?
 
It should be fine as long as it's not undersized for your tank. That skimmer just doesn't have the "bling" factor others do...thankfully "bling" has no impact on performance. :)

It's normal to get erratic behavior from a new skimmer. Give it a few weeks tuned as well as you can get it in the mean time.

-Matt
 
You can add a foam intake filter to the skimmers return water, this will eliminate most if not all of your micro bubble problem.
 
I like the bubbles.lol But Mr. Madness is right about the foam pad.:angel:
 
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Putting a rubber band on the bottom of this while running it on the returns keep bubbles out.

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As a fellow owner of said skimmer (Got it on the cheap from a local reefer) I can say that I was initially unimpressed with the performance. I also found out that my local petco also carries it for around 120 bucks, At that price you can pick up something that is far better.

Part of the problem with this skimmer is in its design. Using a maxi-jet 1200 (older models came with the 900 I think) does not make a good replacement for a true needle wheel impeller. Maxi-Jet also doesn't yet offer a needle impeller alternative for their line of pumps, although they probably should.

If you're willing and reckless, there are a few mods that you can make to the skimmer to turn it into a "reasonably" competent skimmer. I wouldn't want to encourage something like this to a new skimmer, since there's a chance at breaking it.... but if you're brave, go for it.

Remember that your skimmer needs to "break in" and after a while, especially with this particular skimmer, you'll need to "retune it"

I'll start at the air intake. The intake itself is probably a little twisty black valve, It's garbage, it's imprecise, and it loses "tune" fairly often. It did for me at least. I would suggest you go to a LFS or hardware store and pick up something of higher quality. Something like a refrigerator line valve, or a better quality aquarium valve.

The Maxi Jet can be modified to a needle wheel-ish function. I had the most success from this particular modification. The Bio-ball mod is pretty popular with this skimmer and only requires you to be able to modify a bio-ball and the impeller slightly. There are a few tutorials online for it.

Some suggest trimming down the tube in the center chamber, the thin tube in the middle where the air enters the chamber from, is apparently too long and doesn't allow a decent amount of time between liquid and bubble contact. I'm dubious of this, but many have reported higher efficiency with this.

Others have suggested on cutting the tube in the skimmer cup as well, citing that it's too tall as well. I didn't do this mod, but food for thought.

I did do this mod.

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Which allows a higher chance for the bubbles that you want to skim, to reach up higher in the neck. That's a Dr. Pepper bottle.

Make sure you seal up the joints with any plumbers tape if you have any leaks. especially around the oring where the cup and the body of the skimmer meet.

After all these tweaks and changes, I'm "reasonably" happy with my skimmate. I usually get a very dark, wet skimmate.
 
Thank you so much for that feedback! The chef at my work suggested the sponge idea as well. I have also seen the air valve idea in other forums which sounds like a good one. I am new and I don't want to tweak too much and cause myself bigger problems. The bio ball idea sounds fairly easy and effective. I do have the maxi jet 1200 model. Do you know what size bioball I should buy? Also the owner of one of the nearby LFS' told me that if I am diligent with my tank that I don't even need a skimmer for the size (20 gallon) any thoughts?
 
Technically, if you keep up with your water changes, you can get away with not using a skimmer. It's a popular thing, to use a skimmer to remove crap from the water that gets removed from the system with a water change otherwise. I've seen several tanks that have been successful with and without skimmers, but it depends on your discipline and how your corals react. You may find that not using a skimmer works for you.
 
Yeah I'm thinking that might be the easiest way to go at the moment. I'm no engineer and I definitely don't want to cause damage to the aquarium while tinkering with the skimmer. I'm planning on sticking to 25% water changes every 2 weeks as well as regular top offs when needed. Also "vacuuming" the sand when I do water changes (after the tank has completely cycled of course). If its still not enough my next venture will be a new air valve for the skimmer and the sponge on the return. I may attempt the bio ball as I have researched it more since u mentioned it. I'm just nervous to tinker too much. Who knows maybe I'll just save some extra dough and get a more reliable skimmer. Thank you so much for the input. Glad to know there are tried and tested methods and solutions that I can follow.
 
If you have fish and want corals to thrive a skimmer is essential.
 

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