Need to raise alkalinity

[Oregon Grown Reef]

Meh, anything I have to say here is just gonna keep this thread going, and I'm over it. Have a good day, good luck with the ALK increase.

Also you had someone else gave you the answer, which you seemingly ignored. Why not just directly PM the person you wanted the answer from? People are weird man.

You can't direct message Randy. I tried before posting this and I tried again when you wrote this. The first reply did not answer my question, but was speaking to the drop in alk being due to an increase in coral consumption, which it isn't. Sometimes it's just best to learn and move on. Have a great day.

 

[Hincapiej4]

There is a good chance your CA is lower as well if your Alk is low due to coral consumption, not nitrates increases.
I would raise it less than 0.5 Dkh a day.

 

[Oregon Grown Reef]

Sorry if I'm wanting an answer from an actual chemist. As you've proven, some people on this site have no clue what they're talking about and are wanting to argue for the sake of arguing. Please do something else with your time now.

 

[Hincapiej4]

Sorry if I'm wanting an answer from an actual chemist. As you've proven, some people on this site have no clue what they're talking about and are wanting to argue for the sake of arguing. Please do something else with your time now.

Eh, not worth it. This crap is childish and you're just gonna continue until I actually do just want to argue. Have a better day.

 

[Oregon Grown Reef]

I mean, you said he just spoke about increase in alk consumption. But you missed what he told you after...you're mad because I pointed it out.

You're on a public forum, you're gonna get people from all types answering you. Luckily, some things that a chemist would know, like how much dkh you can raise in a day you can easily learn by using this amazing little tool called google.com, you tool.

I just figured it out! You've been in the hobby for just a year, but think you know everything because you did some reading. To go so far as to name call just shows what kind of person you are. Google also brings up several articles where you can raise alk as much as 1 dkh per day. You'd know that if you googled it.

 

[Oregon Grown Reef]

Sometimes it's just best to admit that you're not sure what's being discussed and move on. I can almost without a doubt guess that you had no idea that a rise in nitrates depletes alkalinity before reading this post. That's okay, but don't start an argument because you didn't know it prior to reading it. It took me a long time to learn that as well. There's a lot of info on here, and some people give advice without having any inkling of what the answer is. This is why people like Randy are on the forums.

 

[Hincapiej4]

I just figured it out! You've been in the hobby for just a year, but think you know everything because you did some reading. To go so far as to name call just shows what kind of person you are. Google also brings up several articles where you can raise alk as much as 1 dkh per day. You'd know that if you googled it.

And somethings say 1.5 DKH, but you'd know that if you weren't such a prick.

 

[Oregon Grown Reef]

And somethings say 1.5 DKH, but you'd know that if you weren't such a prick.

The point being that both of those answers are wrong. You're failing to understand that.

 

[Hincapiej4]

For you maybe. I've done 1 dkh without too much of an issue.

But, the thing is you really really want to stick it to me because I'm this or that. That's fine, shows what type of person you are.

I already said I was done with this, but you want to try to make me feel bad and/or make a point.

It's fine. You've being doing this for 1000000 years, and you think your level of whatever the **** you think you're at absolutely needs the attention of a ******* chemist. It's fine bougie, it's clear you think you can only learn to do things one single way and only from people you deem to know enough to help you.

That's fine, btw. The information I was trying to give you, was stuff I learned from someone else, who I won't name because you don't need to know, that also knows much much more than you.

Spoke with him a couple days ago about a similar issue I had myself. But, keep being a complete prick.

I constantly read other peoples experiences, work on stuff in my tank, I watch what's happening, I ask people questions, I watch videos, I research. This is like my second job, not a hobby at this point.

I bet you're gonna try to insult me again, because I'm apparently beneath you. I do hope it backfires on you and next time you ask a question, not a single person responds. *******.

 

[Oregon Grown Reef]

For you maybe. I've done 1 dkh without too much of an issue.

But, the thing is you really really want to stick it to me because I'm this or that. That's fine, shows what type of person you are.

I already said I was done with this, but you want to try to make me feel bad and/or make a point.

It's fine. You've being doing this for 1000000 years, and you think your level of whatever the **** you think you're at absolutely needs the attention of a ******* chemist. It's fine bougie, it's clear you think you can only learn to do things one single way and only from people you deem to know enough to help you.

That's fine, btw. The information I was trying to give you, was stuff I learned from someone else, who I won't name because you don't need to know, that also knows much much more than you.

Spoke with him a couple days ago about a similar issue I had myself. But, keep being a complete prick.

I constantly read other peoples experiences, work on stuff in my tank, I watch what's happening, I ask people questions, I watch videos, I research. This is like my second job, not a hobby at this point.

I bet you're gonna try to insult me again, because I'm apparently beneath you. I do hope it backfires on you and next time you ask a question, not a single person responds. *******.

You've got issues, man. I get it, you don't like being told you're wrong. Goodness.

 

[Hincapiej4]

I don't mind being wrong man. I'm wrong all the dang time.

But again, you don't know me, same as I don't know you.

Anyway bougie, have a good day. Stay warm, stay humble.

 

[Oregon Grown Reef]

Very nice words to Randy and its true. But it doesn't sound like it is his ring finger you are kissing lol.

Whatever I can do to get the right answer. Lol

 

[Oregon Grown Reef]

I don't mind being wrong man. I'm wrong all the dang time.

But again, you don't know me, same as I don't know you.

Anyway bougie, have a good day. Stay warm, stay humble.

I'm sorry the conversation ended up this way. I took offense with your first reply because of the words you used. You shamed me on something you didn't have full knowledge on. This wouldn't have gotten to where it is if it didn't start off that way. I shouldn't have insulted you though. It doesn't excuse my replies but it's not like you were trying to be helpful in a constructive way. Next time you want to answer someone's question, just make sure you're giving the right answer and doing so in a way that actually helps someone learn. That's the only point I was trying to make.

 

[Hincapiej4]

I am extremely dry and pointed in text.

Maybe it's because I'm from the east coast, I don't waste time sugar coating things.

I write down my thoughts and done. I won't usually edit it, I just give my info.

The point the I was trying to make, I've had an issue with my tank this week where my alk showed up at 7.7 down from 9 on sunday.

I had just cleaned my Reef waves using vinegar, so I was thinking it was possibly from the vinegar lowering my ALK, which means at some point it was going to spike and I was worrying about that.

The other thought I had, was maybe CO2 in the air and my skimmer being off from the power being out, and my generator running was messing with the oxygen exchange and PH, killing my ALK.

I was fixing it by dosing ALK (fritz), but I wanted to call someone who I see as a genius for help.
He landed on it being CO2, and we made a plan on fixing it. Yesterday I was up to 9.2, so overshot a little bit with the fritz, at this point I'll let my AFR handle it for a few days and see what happens. (CAL and MAG was rock solid where it's been this entire time)

I don't have high nitrates because I do water changes, run refugium, and use synbiotic (usually doesn't get past around 15) to keep it down.

I was trying to give you another train of thought as to why you might be having issues. To me, it read as if you had alk at 8.0ish and didn't know why it lowered. So I was like why isn't he doing water changes, even if not to lower nitrate, it helps in many other ways.

I usually come at people's posts from many different angles, looking for things to fix. While you might be asking one single thing, I'm in "try to help this person anyway you can". Not everyone works that way, and I guess that's my mistake for trying to help figure out everything a person mentions.

 

[Viva'sReef]

This was fun.......AND I learned about the correlation between Nitirates rising and Alk falling. Thank you!!!

 

[Oregon Grown Reef]

I am extremely dry and pointed in text.

Maybe it's because I'm from the east coast, I don't waste time sugar coating things.

I write down my thoughts and done. I won't usually edit it, I just give my info.

The point the I was trying to make, I've had an issue with my tank this week where my alk showed up at 7.7 down from 9 on sunday.

I had just cleaned my Reef waves using vinegar, so I was thinking it was possibly from the vinegar lowering my ALK, which means at some point it was going to spike and I was worrying about that.

The other thought I had, was maybe CO2 in the air and my skimmer being off from the power being out, and my generator running was messing with the oxygen exchange and PH, killing my ALK.

I was fixing it by dosing ALK (fritz), but I wanted to call someone who I see as a genius for help.
He landed on it being CO2, and we made a plan on fixing it. Yesterday I was up to 9.2, so overshot a little bit with the fritz, at this point I'll let my AFR handle it for a few days and see what happens. (CAL and MAG was rock solid where it's been this entire time)

I don't have high nitrates because I do water changes, run refugium, and use synbiotic (usually doesn't get past around 15) to keep it down.

I was trying to give you another train of thought as to why you might be having issues. To me, it read as if you had alk at 8.0ish and didn't know why it lowered. So I was like why isn't he doing water changes, even if not to lower nitrate, it helps in many other ways.

I usually come at people's posts from many different angles, looking for things to fix. While you might be asking one single thing, I'm in "try to help this person anyway you can". Not everyone works that way, and I guess that's my mistake for trying to help figure out everything a person mentions.

I may not have been clear as to why my nitrates were low in the first post. I knew they were low because of my increase in nitrates. A water change was only a temporary fix as I see no need to lower my nitrate.

You might want to try getting the BRS supplements and making them yourself, btw. In the long run, it's dirt cheap. It took me over a year to run out of a bag of soda ash.

The reason I respect Randy is because he designed that dosing formula. It's used by tens of thousands of reefers to great success. I'm not saying you can't provide advice, but that I trust his advice, which is why I was asking for it. Thank you for trying to help me.

 

[Hincapiej4]

I may not have been clear as to why my nitrates were low in the first post. I knew they were low because of my increase in nitrates. A water change was only a temporary fix as I see no need to lower my nitrate.

You might want to try getting the BRS supplements and making them yourself, btw. In the long run, it's dirt cheap. It took me over a year to run out of a bag of soda ash.

The reason I respect Randy is because he designed that dosing formula. It's used by tens of thousands of reefers to great success. I'm not saying you can't provide advice, but that I trust his advice, which is why I was asking for it. Thank you for trying to help me.

I like AFR because at the moment I only have enough room in my sump for one small doser, and it doses everything including trace elements. I've had a noticeable change in my tank after getting things going with AFR and Synbiotic. My tank was doing well, with the Red sea buckets, but a big difference with tropic marins stuff.

The way I read it was that your Nitrates were high and alk was low. So I was thinking do a water change to lower nitrates, bring alk more in line, and dose the rest if needed.

Hopefully that clarifies why you annoyed the **** out of me.

Ontop of replenishing trace element's which would help your coral, etc, in a number of ways.

 

[Hincapiej4]

I will also say, since you didn't know what your CAL is at. We can't say for sure it's a nitrate issue. (No idea what your nitrates were at)

In my case, I tested CAL, ALK, and MAG (just for *****). CAL and MAG were where they've been for a month, so I knew something was happening with my ALK. I had just done a water change that day, a bigger one (I did match my alk to 9), so it wasn't that (we thought about that (Nitrates)).

 

[Oregon Grown Reef]

Calcium is 390
Mag is 1280
I'm fairly certain the drop was from nitrates.

 

[Hincapiej4]

Is that what it's been for a while? If that's just a recent test, all it gives us is a baseline.

That said, personally, i cant say one way or the other if it's uptake or anything else.

But, I'm not a chemist bahaha.

Seriously though, that's why it's important to test. Not for testing sake, but to spot trends. Trends tell you alot about what's happening. It honestly could just have been uptake...

Both your mag and cal are a little low..more so your cal.