Neptune Apex DOS programing issues

[ZombieDragon]

In an attempt to get our ALK more stable we purchased a DOS. My fiancé doesn't want it running every 17 minutes or so as the wizard would have it do. I made a dosing profile to add 3.1ml every 3 hours (well technically 30 seconds shy of 3 hours so it would not miss the dose around midnight) then programed the DOS as follows

Fallback off
Set off
If time 00:00 to 23;59 then (profile name)

This works fine except it only runs the profile for 1 day. Then stops dosing at all. If I delete the if statement and put it back in a load the changes to Apex it starts dosing on the correct schedule but stops running the schedule at midnight. I must be missing something but I've done alot of research before purchasing and since this issue started a week ago. Any help would be great

 

[blaxsun]

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[ZombieDragon]

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[blaxsun]

In an attempt to get our ALK more stable we purchased a DOS. My fiancé doesn't want it running every 17 minutes or so as the wizard would have it do. I made a dosing profile to add 3.1ml every 3 hours (well technically 30 seconds shy of 3 hours so it would not miss the dose around midnight) then programed the DOS as follows

Fallback off
Set off
If time 00:00 to 23;59 then (profile name)

This works fine except it only runs the profile for 1 day. Then stops dosing at all. If I delete the if statement and put it back in a load the changes to Apex it starts dosing on the correct schedule but stops running the schedule at midnight. I must be missing something but I've done alot of research before purchasing and since this issue started a week ago. Any help would be great

What if you tried something like this:

Fallback OFF
If Time 00:00 to 21:00 then <profile>

 

[ZombieDragon]

What if you tried something like this:

Fallback OFF
If Time 00:00 to 21:00 then <profile>

I could certainly try that. My issue is that the first dos would be about 3 am and last would be at 9 pm there would be a 6 HR gap and I would be short 3.1 ml. But I could not be understanding the problem entirely. I will make that change and let it run a day

 

[blaxsun]

I could certainly try that. My issue is that the first dos would be about 3 am and last would be at 9 pm there would be a 6 HR gap and I would be short 3.1 ml. But I could not be understanding the problem entirely. I will make that change and let it run a day

Isn't the first one at midnight? I know the DOS has an issue running any kind of schedule that crosses over midnight, which is why when you setup a schedule it only runs from 00:00 to 23:59 (max). I don't know if rolling it back 3 hours so that it doesn't conflict with midnight will fix the issue - just a guess.

 

[ZombieDragon]

Isn't the first one at midnight? I know the DOS has an issue running any kind of schedule that crosses over midnight, which is why when you setup a schedule it only runs from 00:00 to 23:59 (max). I don't know if rolling it back 3 hours so that it doesn't conflict with midnight will fix the issue - just a guess.

That's what I thought but it hasn't been dosing at midnight. It doses at 3am as the first dos each day. First schedule I had was 4ml 6 times and that's when I noticed it wasn't doing anything at midnight. And that still doesn't explain why it will dos how I expect and then not dos the following day

 

[blaxsun]

Try changing the DOS count from 8 to 7 and have the time set to 00:00 to 22:59.

Have you checked this DOS tutorial out? It might have some answers...

Neptune Apex Tutorials Part 9: DOS

Neptune DOS Tutorial

www.reef2reef.com

 

[ZombieDragon]

Try changing the DOS count from 8 to 7 and have the time set to 00:00 to 22:59.

Have you checked this DOS tutorial out? It might have some answers...

Neptune Apex Tutorials Part 9: DOS

Neptune DOS Tutorial

www.reef2reef.com

I have extensively read all the information I could about this. Why would changing the DOS count from 8 to 7 help? Does. The first dos not count? It isn't doing the first dose anyway? I appreciate you offering suggestions but I need to know WHY changing the dose count would help and why setting the time differently would help. I need to know what about my settings is causing the problem. If I can't understand the logic of a device in this way I'll just throw it out and buy something else. If someone gave me an exact copy an paste solution but it did make sense and wasn't explained why it resolved the issue I would throw it away. It's more about WHY now than it is about anything else. I've been dosing manually for 20 months and still am until this thing works correctly for 2 days in a row

 

[blaxsun]

You could also try a single dose of 3.1ml, no interval and call it at specific times in the programming, ie: 00:00, 03:00, 06:00, 09:00, 12:00, 15:00, 18:00, 21:00.

And if you don't want all those lines in the DOS code, you could just create a virtual DOS outlet to trigger the DOS at those times instead.

 

[ZombieDragon]

You could also try a single dose of 3.1ml, no interval and call it at specific times in the programming, ie: 00:00, 03:00, 06:00, 09:00, 12:00, 15:00, 18:00, 21:00

It's changed. I'll let it run a day and see

 

[ZombieDragon]

I could certainly try that. My issue is that the first dos would be about 3 am and last would be at 9 pm there would be a 6 HR gap and I would be short 3.1 ml. But I could not be understanding the problem entirely. I will make that change and let it run a day

After another day of it not working I finally found a thread at neptune forum that may answer this for me and I will know tomorrow if it worked. We were both on the right track though. The issue is in fact the 00:00-23:59 call in the programing. BUT WHY is that in order to reset the dose counter ( of 8 in my profile) the DOS needs to be in the "off" state even if only for a minute. The call of 00:00-23:59 kept the DOS in "profile name" (auto) all day and after reaching 8 doses it thought it was done therefor not dosing again the next midnight (00:00) because it had done 8 doses and had not been "reset" by temporarily switching off. You're recommended code would have worked if only it had the line " set off" as the second line. Fallback OFF only gives the dose the off command if it loses connection with Apex. Set off will set it to off anytime no other logic is operating it. I really hope this is the issue or I will throw it away and switch brands for our controller.

 

[ShepherdReefer]

Good stuff.

 

[ZombieDragon]

Issue is resolved after adding
Set off
To the program and altering the schedule of
00:00 to 23:59 (which never allowed the DOS to switfh of "off" status
New schedule was set to
00:00 to 23:58

Worked perfectly. So to clarify my profile is
3.1 ml every 10800 seconds (3 hours) 8 times
And the DOS is
Fallback off
Set off
If Time 00:00 to 23:58 then (profile name)