New 320g build

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My incredible wife just said Merry Christmas and green lighted a tank that I’ve been dreaming about since I entered the hobby as a teenager, and I just ordered it this past Saturday. It’s a 320 gallon, 96†long, 30†wide, 26†deep tank with a low iron glass front panel; needles to say I’m pretty excited. Because of the layout of my home it will sit centered directly over a load bearing wall that will allow for a basement sump/fish room. It caught me a little off guard when she gave me the green light; she knew that it was something I’ve been dreaming about for a long time, but I had no idea she was actually going to come onboard to help me realize a dream. I guess this proves that even after twenty plus years of being with someone, they can still surprise you at times…

I also think that perhaps my weekly ritual of sloshing around the house with five gallon buckets full of salt water whilst her favorite television programs are aired just might have lead her to the conclusion that a single large tank, with a basement sump, would be much more conducive to her viewing pleasure. And under no circumstances did I intentionally plot my weekly water change schedule to coincide with her favorite television programs; my story, and I’m sticking to it, so let not your mind be troubled. :angel:

I took a 20 year hiatus from the hobby and just re-entered the hobby a little over a year ago, and admittedly, I haven’t been active on any forums because of my past experience in the hobby, crazy work schedule, and with the current fowlr tanks that I’m running I just didn’t have a lot of questions, but this tank is going to be a whole new ball of wax for me.

The tank should be built and ready for pick up sometime within the next five weeks, so this doesn’t give me a ton of time to build a stand, research equipment, and layout my fish room. So the realization of this project has drawn me to seek the advice of those that have taken on the task of setting up a basement sump/filtration/quarantine room. I have never been one to just dive into a project without doing as much research as possible, but my wives sudden willingness and heart felt gift has inspired me to do just that; wouldn’t want her changing her mind or anything, so I’m running with it…

Like many, I am working on a budget, so I just want to get it right the first time around. I haven’t been having much luck coming across used equipment to this point, at least none that meet the requirements of this kind of water volume and future bio load. So it looks like I will be purchasing some new equipment. The tank will start out as a fowlr system, but my wife and I would really like to venture into a reef set up in the near future, so that is the end goal.

I ordered the sump from the tank manufacturer, so this is taken care of already, although he did tell me if I wanted to make any changes within the next week, just to let them know. It’s dimensions are as follows 60â€Lx 24â€Wx18â€H, I might stretch that out to 72†if it would be beneficial in any way, more water volume normally is, but perhaps not really necessary in this case. I have plenty of work space, but I need to try and stay within my set budget as much as possible for major equipment. I am thinking just live rock and algae in the refugium portion of the sump for now.

This is a short list of what I really need immediate advice on, and sorry in advance, probably the most common questions asked. Now keeping in mind I’m looking for most bang for the buck due to budget restraints; now if I was the Federal Government this would be a non issue, but for a simpleton bottom feeder without any connections its just reality.

Protein Skimmer: The SRO 6000 SSS or 5000 INT seem to be fairly budget friendly, would they be up for the task?

Return Pump: I am looking at 10-15 ft max head pressure depending on sump placement; I want 2-3 times turn over through the sump/protein skimmer, so that’s only 8-1200 gph. I plead ignorance on this one, If I were to run a manifold with a larger pump, is it possible to create a closed loop off the same pump for additional water flow within the tank, and still keep my turn over rate at desired levels through the sump? I am not a plumber, although I have plumbed a few bathrooms over the years, but they don’t exactly require a manifold… I am having the sump/tank builder go ahead and drill a hole on the pump side of the sump, so this allows for an internal or external pump. Would there be any good reason to have both ends drilled?

Bio Pellet Reactor: Considering the bio load that will be placed on the system, this might be wise to help deal with certain nitrate issues associated with keeping some messy eaters. I don’t know a lot about these new fangled devices, no such thing twenty years ago, but they certainly sound intriguing. What say you?

Plumbing component advice: Ball valves, gate valves, hard line or flexible, and where each is needed within the system. IE: drain and return.

I am looking forward to any personal advice one might be willing to offer, any links to info that would be of value, good vendor experience that might be able to put together a package deal on protein skimmer, pump, bio pellet reactor.

Thanks for your time, and I look forward to becoming a member of your community, this is if my newbie questions haven’t already ruined a chance for this to happen…

Corey
 
Congrats!! Lookin' forward to it! :D
 
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If your working on a budget, I have seen some beautiful tanks without all the equipment people buy these days. She said yes to the tank, dont make her sorry for saying yes by now saying oh honey I need this it cost $600 and that cost $900. I am sure your gona go with tunze or vortechs and that will be another big bite. As I always say keep it simple. I always look at the guys whose tanks made it to the tank of the month, and many of them dont have much. Trust me I have seen some guys with full fish rooms whose tanks dont look half as good. Just my 2 cents but I am tagging along to see how this goes, when my basement is finished, I would love to put a 300+ in the wall as well. GOOD LUCK.
 
Thanks everyone for the kind welcomes…

Islandreef, I am working on a self imposed budget on this build, so it will take some time to get it to where I want it. I am all about what works, not what has the most bells and whistles. I learned a long time ago to take it slow and appreciate what I have; nothing kills a hobby for me quicker than getting to the end game immediately, that kind of gratification is short lived.
 
First off!

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OK now to answer some questions, and BTW congrats on the green light!

First off what types of equipment do you already have that you may be thinking of using on the new setup?

I'm not sure on the skimmer size but I have a SRO skimmer and love it.

As for the return pump having a manifold and closed loop, I'm not sure if that would work. I would do a pump by the DT for your closed loop and have as much head loss as possible.

Valve locations depend on how you plan on plumbing it. I would strictly use gate valves as they are much nicer and easier to dial up or down.

Can you post some pic's of the tanks future location and also of your basement layout for the sump?
 
First off!

Welcome to Reef2Reef!

If you haven't already done so, be sure to get your entry in on the December Reef2Reef Membership Drive contest for your chance to win a Snow Onyx Clownfish Pair from Clownfish Depot! https://www.reef2reef.com/forums/me...f2reef-dec-2012-membership-drive-contest.html

OK now to answer some questions, and BTW congrats on the green light!

First off what types of equipment do you already have that you may be thinking of using on the new setup?

I'm not sure on the skimmer size but I have a SRO skimmer and love it.

As for the return pump having a manifold and closed loop, I'm not sure if that would work. I would do a pump by the DT for your closed loop and have as much head loss as possible.

Valve locations depend on how you plan on plumbing it. I would strictly use gate valves as they are much nicer and easier to dial up or down.

Can you post some pic's of the tanks future location and also of your basement layout for the sump?


First off, thanks for the kind welcome…

Not much will be transferred over from current setups, everything I have now is drastically undersized for this build, some of the lighting, but this will be very temporary.

I am pretty certain at this point I am going to go with either the SRO 6000 SSS, or the SRO 6000 EXT. It looks to me like the SSS version loses quite a bit of space in the reaction chamber due to pump placement, but whether the difference is substantual enough to warrant the extra ost of the external or not, I have no clue… Hard to really tell in the photos and video I’ve seen, and none of the LFS around here carry them so I haven’t been able to lay eyes on one personally. I know one of the members here has the SSS version and are pleased with it, but I also think they are running two skimmers on there system.

I am not sure why, but CoralVue rates the 6000 EXT for up to 500gal, and the 6000 SSS at 630-735gal. It is either a typo, or I am missing something, it just doesn’t add up in my mind. Unless it has to do with backpressure on the pump increasing contact time, but I think not?

As for the return pump, I am leaning towards going with the Reeflo BH2700, the stats indicate that it should handle the head pressure, and any reactors that I might want to add down the road. I think I’ll just handle flow internally for the DT.

Thanks for the advice on using gate valves vs ball valves. I was planning on gates for the returns, but not the rest of the system. The tank is bottom drilled, and will have a single overflow centered in the tank, with two 1 ½†drains, and one return.

As for the pics, I can, but its really a straight forward layout for the plumbing. The tank is going on my main floor, and If I keep the tank four inches off the wall this would center the tank directly over a load bearing wall. The sump will almost be directly underneath the tank in the basement, so I'll either have to run the pipes for the return/overflow straight down through the floor and then over 11†between the floor joists and down to the sump, or else I could bring it off the wall under the stand and then straight down through the floor against the load bearing wall; this might be the way to go.
 
I was shocked when my wife said "YES! Do it!" I didn't waste any time, I had the sawzall in hand and the wall where the tank was going came down!

Good luck with your build! and welcome!
 
I was shocked when my wife said "YES! Do it!" I didn't waste any time, I had the sawzall in hand and the wall where the tank was going came down!

Good luck with your build! and welcome!

Never look a gift horse in the mouth they say, I know I certainly wasn’t going too… You have an incredible system, and it sounds like an even more incredible wife.
 
I received a couple of items for the build this week, but have been a little short on time to accomplish a whole lot in regards to the rest of the build. My 6 year old son did convince me to take them out of the boxes and check them out real quick; it cracks me up how excited he is with the new skimmer, he said “Dad, I want to see this monster running, it’s huge, and will make a big tornado.†It’s a lot of fun having a little one around to enjoy your hobbies with, so full of imagination and enthusiasm….

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