New 75g build

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I setup my first SW tank (28g nano) 2 months ago.

Now i can't wait to go bigger. I am addicted and plan to not limit myself on the type of coral i can keep

Below is what i am planning to buy or have bought please review and offer input. My plan is to hook as much up as possible to a Apex Gold controller.

Tank - 75G tank with 2 - 1 1/2" overflow and 1 - 3/4" return - Purchased
Sump - 40G breeder sump - Purchased
Return Pump - DC2500HP 660 GPH Waveline
Skimmer - Reef Octopus Classic 5"
ATO -
Heater - 2 Finnex TH Series 500W (1 primary, 1 backup)
DT Light - ZT-6600A LED Light
Fuge Light -
Wavemaker - 2 MaxSpect Grye
Controller - Apex Gold
RODI - 100 GPD
 
I would suggest maybe going up one size on the waveline pump in case the 2500 isn't quite enough and you're not running it at full power. With the 6000 you'd be able to run it lower and match the drain volume. One gyre would be more than enough for a 4ft tank. I've got the 150 on a 6ft tank and with it set at 60% it blows the sand at the other end and I end up with a bare bottom tank. :-) I currently max it out at 45%.
 
My tank is a peninsula set up so it's on the viewing end blowing toward the overflow on the other end.
 
I am addicted and plan to not limit myself on the type of coral i can keep

It's a great addiction:D:D:D, but...

Try to keep in mind that your equipment generally neither limits nor dictates what corals or fish you keep. It's your knowledge that does that.

Don't get caught up in (too many) fads! And don't think you can over stock your tank without problems.

Go slow.

Learn - get to know - each and every critter you add to your tank.

Know everything you can about your critters in the wild, as well as what people have done in the past to keep them successfully in the aquarium.

Make mistakes early, before you've added all your live stock.

Making mistakes is human.

Making mistakes is how we learn.

So go slow, and let yourself be human. :)

Oh, I wouldn't do heaters in that manner. Too big, wrong design. Put one correctly-sized heater in each tank on the system. If you really want two (e.g. one is too long) then still use the correct total wattage. A 500-watt heater stuck on in a small tank will be a bad outcome in a big hurry.

Remember: Two to four times your display tank's size is all you need for return flow. 75 gallons x2 = 150 GPH x4 = 300 GPH. Much more than 375 GPH is pretty much a waste of pump and electricity....you should get your flow from power heads in the tank. The return pump just feeds the filters....and 2x to 4x is more than enough.... 5x (375 gph) would be the most I'd overbuild to.

Also, get a [HASHTAG]#lux[/HASHTAG] [HASHTAG]#meter[/HASHTAG] ($15 delivered) to help you set up whatever lights you get. (Run a search for "lux" on the forum, or click those tags, to see lots of past conversations about doing this.)

One gyre would be more than enough for a 4ft tank.

I would almost never recommend one pump for flow*, I don't care what style of pump or what the numbers on the box say.

At least two pumps (as the @Nickh517 spec'd) to give a rough tidal simulation - strong, laminar currents in one direction for a few hours, then then other direction for a few hours. (Don't think that's news....just sayin it!;))

But there can definitely be uses for more than two good pumps in the tank!

There are oodles of combinations for a 75 gallon, but let's take your budget for two Gyre's ($538 or $478 depending on the model) and see what can be done within those bounds to create a "full service reef" that will support great coral health:
  • on the minimal side, four Tunze 6045's on simple timers to create the tidal effect would be awesome - $312
  • a pair of 6055's ($370) plus one or two smaller support pumps, if/when needed...you could add a 6040 or a third 6055 for around the same budget as the Gyres.
  • three 6040's would make a pretty nice flow! ($420)
  • a pair fo 6105's ($570) is even more overkill than the a pair of Gyre's, but they are strong enough to run any tank you'll have in the next two upgrades. (Thanks to that you will run them at a low percentage, causing less wear and tear over time, making them longer-lasting.)
Listing equipment combos is fun :cool::D but honestly, what is ideal ultimately depends a great deal on what you do with the rock and later what the corals and other critters do to fill up tank.

Flow requires open space.

You will need more than one or two sources of flow as the tank grows in as there will eventually be too many dead zones and too much space-restriction for large pumps to work as effectively as when the tank was empty. (In contrast, you may or may not eventually need more flow by the numbers...dividing the flow among more pumps is usually the ticket.)

Most people experience tank crashes or other problems before they get to that point, but it's a good thing to at least be aware of at the beginning.

* I don't know Jimbo662's scenario, so I'm not judging, just making an example. ;)
 
Flow is one thing going I find hard to plan prior to having the tank.
Is a 200w heater more appropriately sized.

In my nano I run two heaters with digital control. One setpoint at 78 one at 76 and swap the setpoint every weekend with the idea that if one fails I would know by tank temp being 76 opposed to 78
 
Flow is a tricky thing....going slow will allow starting with a single pump to try it.....nothing to lose at that point....sell the pump if you don't like it and get something different. No (or very very few) corals depending on the flow.

For the concern over heating: I would use higher quality heaters, have a good plan and worry less. :) :) :) If you have a controller you can put them on (Apex, Reefkeeper or a standalone...anything) then that should be the most insurance you would need. $0.02

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That's a Marineland Precision heater. The same thing used to be called their "Visitherm". Originally I bought them as an affordable knock-off of the legendary Ebo Jager....there were no others like it on the market at the time, until the Visitherm came out. It proved a worthy choice.

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From Marineland's site....I would probably go with two Precision 100's, unless they are significantly larger than the 75's. Also depends on the space....typical HVAC atmosphere with air around 70ºF most of the year and decent forced-air circulation through the room?

I've used almost nothing but these heaters on my home tanks and they've always lasted a long time (10-20 years+)....the ones that have failed did so in a completely undramatic fashion and were replaced for free, almost without question, under the lifetime warranty. That said, no matter what heater you pick, it should be treated as gently as possible.

Just due to coincidence I haven't used many Jaeger heaters, but I would feel equally as confident in buying them as the Precisions....I've had mixed results with most of the others I have experience with.
 
How would I know if I would need a chiller. Is it common to need one on bigger tanks
 
The Red Sea supposedly grows corals well and has daytime temps up to 86ºF from my understanding.

I grew corals pretty well in my old halide system that ran at 83ºF.

If you run LED's, chances are you do not need a chiller. If the tank and sump only have limited fresh air for evaporation for some reason, there's a small chance.

If you run halide or T5 lighting, you might. If your tank can evaporate plenty of water, it will self-cool and it might just stay at the high end of the OK range like my tank I mentioned above...not a big deal. That means the sump and tank both need excellent access to circulating fresh air from the room AND the room itself needs to have good air-exchange with the outside/rest of the house.

But if you (e.g.) have a canopy covering the top of the tank and the sump is in a stand, your tank is cut off from a lot of fresh air - it may require a chiller.

YMMV if your house doesn't stay somewhere around 70ºF year round.
 
I plan to put fans in canopy and stand. Stand completely open on the back. Plus I keep house at 68
 

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